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Donenfeld" Cc: ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org, luto@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, andrew@lunn.ch, ebiggers@kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, sneves@dei.uc.pt, jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 02/17] zinc: introduce minimal cryptography library Message-ID: <20180918042133.4ybztgdooxkoyiru@gondor.apana.org.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: apana.lists.os.linux.cryptoapi,apana.lists.os.linux.kernel,apana.lists.os.linux.netdev Organization: Core User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Jason: Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:26 AM Ard Biesheuvel > wrote: >> OK, so let me summarize my remaining concerns as well. I may be a bit >> more finicky than Andy, though. > > Yes, and generally hostile to this whole initiative since the > beginning. But I am very grateful for your reviews nonetheless, and > I'll do my best to incorporate as much as is reasonable. >> I would like to urge Jason to >> bear with us and bring this discussion to a close before resubmitting. > > What I fear is that either: > - You don't like the Zinc initiative in one way or another, and the > desire to "keep discussing" and adding more things is less out of > their necessity and more out of a desire to stall it indefinitely. > - You're going to bikeshed and bikeshed and waste tons of time until > Zinc copies lots of the same design decisions from the present crypto > API. That may be your view but from what I've read Ard has been very constructive in pointing out issues in your submission. If your response to criticism is to dismiss them as hostile then I'm afraid that we will not be able to progress on this patch series. Please keep in mind that this is a large project that has to support multiple users on one hand (not just WireGuard) and complex hardware acceleration drivers on the other. Ard has been one of the most prolific contributors to the crypto code and his review should be taken seriously. Thanks, -- Email: Herbert Xu Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt