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To: Olof Johansson Cc: Jonathan Corbet , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <20180919081812.020f19e3@lwn.net> <72dadc76-44fe-ecb5-e142-0a9129082c93@cantab.net> From: Edward Cree Message-ID: <93b77a9a-12c3-6f7d-d2c3-0e0d7875a28b@cantab.net> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 03:14:22 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 20/09/18 02:16, Olof Johansson wrote: > I would be very surprised if any of my peers on the TAB ever had those > intentions, and I know I would not have them myself. In case my references to individualsmade it unclear: I have no reason to =C2=A0suspect _any_ of the present TAB members would; everything I know a= bout =C2=A0them points to them being good, honest and principled people. > I can > see how that kind of environment _could_ be implemented with the same > code of conduct as a base, but [...] I know I > would fight strongly against that. It is definitely reassuring to hear you say that. > There is a list in the first paragraph, but the preceding words say > that it should be a *harassment-free experience for everyone*. That > part of the paragraph is to me the most important part. It certainly _should_ be the most important; IMHO the sentence should end =C2=A0after 'everyone'. > Your above argument that the Code of Conduct is problematic because of > who wrote it seems to contradict your statement that we shall judge by > code (or text) alone. I think there are important differences between code to be run by CPUs =C2=A0and a Code to be run by humans.=C2=A0 And when the author goes on a= victory =C2=A0lap on Twitter and declares the Code to be "a political document", = is =C2=A0it any surprise I'm worried? Applying extra scrutiny to a political document written by someone with a =C2=A0history ofstirring up political antagonism is like checking the loc= king =C2=A0extra-carefully in a patch from a developer who has a history of le= tting =C2=A0locking bugs slip through.