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To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" Cc: Rik van Riel , Edward Cree , Olof Johansson , Jonathan Corbet , Linux Kernel Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Ahem... Of course, the linux community, like ALL communities, needs more political correctness, because we wouldn't want others to feel left out merely because they are wrong. FALSE || TRUE = more participation and diversity! >Our Pledge >In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as >contributors and maintainers pledge to making participation in our project and >our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of age, body >size, disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and >expression, level of experience, education, socio-economic status, nationality, >personal appearance, race, religion, or sexual identity and orientation. As soon as you start to enumerate a list of communities that you're including, you have set yourself up for failure, because you will, LOGICALLY, leave out an endless number of groups that could conceivably want to participate, too: necrophiliacs (NO harm, NO foul!), small animal lovers, balloon sculpturers, magicians, etc. These people may feel ostracized when trying to participate, too. No, all you need to do is say that everyone are invited to participate, but that this is a kernel development community -- you are expected to be able to code in C (is that exclusory?), know some OS theory, done some research, etc. before bothering the participants of the list, who do not have endless amounts of time. Our Standards ============= Examples of behavior that contributes to creating a positive environment include: >* Using welcoming and inclusive language Something like: Hello, thank you for contributing your code. Of course, we'd love to add your recipe for fruit cake into our code base. >* Being respectful of differing viewpoints and experiences Consider: I respect that you think we should make linux include gay and lesbian-friendly (or other minority group) themed fonts and logos, >* Focusing on what is best for the community When the community is made infinitely large, we'll be PERFECT! >* Showing empathy towards other community members Your pussy hurts? Maybe you should have just accepted that your a boy! I think Linus is perfectly fine in conduct. I mean, this bullshit pressure comes from corporations and other wierd places (all seeing eye) that want to "help". Do not even be fooled that this is somehow become the accepted standard that EVERYONE BUT YOU is accepting. It is utterly political and based on POWER, not community. Please, most of these people are still sitting on land that belonged to the Native Americans who have never been given justice at all. It is an utter joke that these people actually think that they are "politically correct". They are as delusional as gunnuts who want to carry assault rifles into Walmart. Do not pander to them. Consider them TROLLS. Mark Janssen