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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x20-v6si50716pga.475.2018.09.24.19.24.47; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 19:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@redchan.it header.s=mail header.b=lUA8JERH; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727420AbeIYI3x (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 25 Sep 2018 04:29:53 -0400 Received: from cock.li ([185.100.85.212]:38462 "EHLO cock.li" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726021AbeIYI3x (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Sep 2018 04:29:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on cock.li X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS shortcircuit=_SCTYPE_ autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=redchan.it; s=mail; t=1537842274; bh=pU1K+hwLIWzrA+e+QFODrMS/CcKRKkeXiaY9YqhHkJ4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=lUA8JERH3U4wOW+aPTIYaf9sKdDUSuVHVZvSvO1VjwtIhTNTpm2tTWYXXJIeTqrep TbxWOG008s20oTvmoutGYOq+yREb4M9XsBbOOjrrC09f4dxuoUewDpsB6e77G5OEnu Sr9zqTDLU0Ks+YF33LzRNEU7IWFfGWjeDW0mDj1+tJaYW8zCXdTwEoE2wPU29GUuaQ tFTC4Lp02V3GlIV0CL5WnId+jKPj/tsEA9rObAYjFPckipjCzWbgNu7CYazxod+AJg oqMwZixsPs0AG5YGcbjCA6I0IkA0zw2oWhu4pAyKc3qhUX9wbWeam5pnogRK0B+Vc4 2SsT5GxN4250Q== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 02:24:33 +0000 From: gratuitouslicensesarerevocable@redchan.it To: Bernd Petrovitsch Cc: xDynamite , jonsmirl@gmail.com, Theodore Tso , fche@redhat.com, riel@surriel.com, ec429@cantab.net, Olof Johansson , Jonathan Corbet , lkml , linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it. In-Reply-To: <8c18dcc5-9028-672f-1449-359ac3d73592@petrovitsch.priv.at> References: <20180919081812.020f19e3@lwn.net> <72dadc76-44fe-ecb5-e142-0a9129082c93@cantab.net> <93b77a9a-12c3-6f7d-d2c3-0e0d7875a28b@cantab.net> <589966d9cd0ddccc88f33fcb7975bb4464be7696.camel@surriel.com> <87zhwbj8xe.fsf@redhat.com> <20180921231545.GC2966@thunk.org> <8c18dcc5-9028-672f-1449-359ac3d73592@petrovitsch.priv.at> Message-ID: X-Sender: gratuitouslicensesarerevocable@redchan.it User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In your employment contract there exists a provision where you sign over your rights to any and all intellectual property, patents, copyrights developed during your term of employment. Said clause makes it clear that what you've furnished is a work-for-hire and owned by the company or the entity you have contracted with. It should be clear why that is not the case with regards to kernel contributions by third parties. Unlike the FSF etc, Linus never required nor sought copyright assignments: thus you still own your code. You were not paid valuable consideration by the licensees for the code. There exists no interest to bind your hand. You never even suggested to said licensees that you would forfeit your right to revoke. Furthermore, they were incapable of relying on said in-existent utterances. You may revoke at your pleasure. And they shall be bound by the will of your countenance. On 2018-09-24 19:45, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > BTW you cannot do that at your workplace either because in all sane > software development companies you cease all (transferable) rights of > your written to the company paying you (and the rest is usually not > enough to get anything revoked). > > I don't see why that should be any different with GPLv2 patches for the > Kernel sent to public mailinglists with the intent of inclusion. > > Please get back to the issue and circumstances at hand and do not try > to > divert people with "not intended for the public" or "semi-public" or > any > other off-topic stuff which is clearly not the case here. > Or - even better - shut up, unsubscribe and go away, thank you. > > MfG, > Bernd, NAL but I talked to a lot of them;-) > > PS: Sorry for troll feeding:-(