Received: by 2002:a4a:301c:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id q28-v6csp908856oof; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 06:16:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60ooBfdNnNd4/V1eYWzFv2Ob7M+bZlwMG3DqfGhWwfjwmdGU6mG9JFOlNntOaHXnmeu1OEM X-Received: by 2002:aa7:881a:: with SMTP id c26-v6mr1180391pfo.82.1537881379641; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 06:16:19 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1537881379; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=saNCm7ce6iJTDjcJTDwGREx276rqY8BCgdd9d8eV7sLjzBgA5OdB/NEZNmOn5Z6dw4 kNItlQ/C2yoPSoTgv6dGu8TaCgNLlEvg3cpsjdmzIH/Z+X/3SUwnBhQYOlcGpfQqAkh5 d4BNl5buyUf1NggkGnnZDCiM/dGG4knht1zQL1OPHt9AguKe2QCI5HIurbqnOSdWF2TI dL1c/3Yovnu9lfynhAMgXPOcLx5Rhar4ngEWoBcBjzBI6yoldDEw5mYaYoMKLkxK7bnx xX/E1Ao1S+E3zjRjUNtfhkcSg8z6y+O3pRWo+ukpXmxOrJLuxW3aczqmM0CZoJmVw7dn Qf1w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:organization:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:mail-followup-to :reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=9v0yE2qqChi6upnd7A+e6GMCtabfeWELzklOq5PZD+U=; b=YazKnlYTH/GgOxcJA4Rl5R1BHN1nm4kqqxeFUnTUHZkj31bXtZFKayzvLHghOcqMXF zzSXjEM1J60vCMa2frNCDMT1STCf16xUEHb12CvhAitfKLr73lz+H7UDYcjxyezv4OZW aebzFPmhTHBBxwroRaAyA79MFmTdi4fm+75RF6djL3+TXNHUygoYMX/jUJOBI10NIEci mgd7JVQmd+vgXYRC37qX5LywlgoYACunDW7pPT5Bry+XMxf+rDM4f1s/R7zDRA4ZNax2 M2+3fby4+LC46MHrFGgHFzFcqiqPdhbBigGY4GUzuAth4nw7EPb8vCJd90XNTG9nPOAJ 3PAQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id u21-v6si2315078pgm.406.2018.09.25.06.16.03; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 06:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729242AbeIYTVk (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 25 Sep 2018 15:21:40 -0400 Received: from thyrsus.com ([71.162.243.5]:50490 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728272AbeIYTVj (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Sep 2018 15:21:39 -0400 Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 865823A42A5; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:13:44 -0400 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Christoph Conrads Cc: Pavel Machek , Edward Cree , Olof Johansson , Jonathan Corbet , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it. Message-ID: <20180925131344.GB7479@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: esr@thyrsus.com, Christoph Conrads , Pavel Machek , Edward Cree , Olof Johansson , Jonathan Corbet , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <20180919081812.020f19e3@lwn.net> <72dadc76-44fe-ecb5-e142-0a9129082c93@cantab.net> <93b77a9a-12c3-6f7d-d2c3-0e0d7875a28b@cantab.net> <20180925112832.GA10951@amd> <20180925143645.af1457944142ecfec7199d80@christoph-conrads.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180925143645.af1457944142ecfec7199d80@christoph-conrads.name> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Christoph Conrads : > The CoC is a political document: > https://web.archive.org/web/20180924234027/https://twitter.com/coralineada/status/1041465346656530432 And there is no level on which this is anything but bad. The kernel devs are a very large, very diverse, multi-national, multi-cultural group. We have nothing to gain by getting entangled with political culture wars, and everything to lose. -- Eric S. Raymond My work is funded by the Internet Civil Engineering Institute: https://icei.org Please visit their site and donate: the civilization you save might be your own.