Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67;
Date:   Tue, 25 Sep 2018 15:41:01 +0200
From:   Christoph Conrads <contact@christoph-conrads.name>
To:     esr@thyrsus.com
Cc:     Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Edward Cree <ec429@cantab.net>,
        Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it.
Message-Id: <20180925154101.e13613306da9c0e7408771b6@christoph-conrads.name>
In-Reply-To: <20180925131344.GB7479@thyrsus.com>
References: <e223b198-af0e-123d-49bf-fad7e0f9126e@cantab.net>
        <20180919081812.020f19e3@lwn.net>
        <72dadc76-44fe-ecb5-e142-0a9129082c93@cantab.net>
        <CAOesGMjgo5zwKvsbi8txGQbvFHR2N7xKphzhTSGOrruN3+RC-Q@mail.gmail.com>
        <93b77a9a-12c3-6f7d-d2c3-0e0d7875a28b@cantab.net>
        <20180925112832.GA10951@amd>
        <20180925143645.af1457944142ecfec7199d80@christoph-conrads.name>
        <20180925131344.GB7479@thyrsus.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
Precedence: bulk

Dear Eric,

> > The CoC is a political document:
> > https://web.archive.org/web/20180924234027/https://twitter.com/coralineada/status/1041465346656530432
> 
> And there is no level on which this is anything but bad.
> 
> The kernel devs are a very large, very diverse, multi-national, multi-cultural
> group. We have nothing to gain by getting entangled with political culture
> wars, and everything to lose.

In this context, I want to mention the tweet by the CoC author from
August 29, 2018 [1]:

> All software is political.

This tweet was posted as a response to your article "Non-discrimination
is a core value of open source" stating that politics should be kept
separate from work (in an open source community):

> The Lerna project’s choice is, moreover, destructive of one of the deep
> norms that keeps the open-source community functional – keeping
> politics separated from our work. If we do not maintain that norm, we
> risk fractionating into a collection of squabbling tribes arguing
> particularisms and unable to sustain really large-scale cooperation.

[1]
https://web.archive.org/web/20180925132931/https:/twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1035009876152467456
[2] http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8106

Sincerely
Christoph Conrads