Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263778AbTKSAtK (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:49:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263784AbTKSAtK (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:49:10 -0500 Received: from ipcop.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.15]:25733 "EHLO work.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263778AbTKSAtG (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:49:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:49:01 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Andrew Walrond Cc: Larry McVoy , Ben Collins , Sven Dowideit , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: kernel.bkbits.net off the air Message-ID: <20031119004901.GA5070@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Andrew Walrond , Larry McVoy , Ben Collins , Sven Dowideit , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20031118183058.GS476@phunnypharm.org> <20031118184200.GA13966@work.bitmover.com> <200311190024.51548.andrew@walrond.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311190024.51548.andrew@walrond.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1979 Lines: 43 On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 12:24:51AM +0000, Andrew Walrond wrote: > On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 6:42 pm, Larry McVoy wrote: > > I'm curious as to why you would think this is better than the CVS gateway. > > The CVS gateway is actually a really nice thing. The whiners think we > > have somehow hamstrung the data in the gateway but that's only because > > they haven't looked at the data, if they had done a careful comparison > > then they'd know it's all in there. > > Since you've already done all the work for bk2cvs, why not add the > functionality to bkd which would allow a simple client to do > > lobobk cvsclone > and > lobobk cvspull Because the translation process is hugely CPU intensive. It takes something like 6 hours to do the 2.5 tree on 2.2Ghz Athlon with a gig of ram. And it uses every bit of that ram, that's my desktop machine and _everything_ is paged out when I come in in the morning. I agreed to the BK2CVS stuff as a way of ensuring that people had the data in a format that they could use without BK and was useful. I'm willing to do that for each main tree of each major project (i.e., if XFree86 or something like that moved to BK we'd agree to do the CVS conversion so that there was no lockin). But doing it for every branch of every tree is nuts unless you are donating a 16 way with a zillion gigs of ram. And a zillion disk arms, this thrashes the heck out of the disk. > And when you've finished that, I'd like a moon rocket please. GPL, of > course ;) Yeah, and I'd like all the open source developers of the world to acknowledge that I'm a good guy and I'm trying to help. In writing, of course ;) -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/