Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264267AbTKTFZq (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:25:46 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264268AbTKTFZp (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:25:45 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:47022 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264267AbTKTFZo (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:25:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBC5036.3020503@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:25:10 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030703 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Lee Irwin III CC: jt@hpl.hp.com, Linux kernel mailing list , Pontus Fuchs Subject: Re: Announce: ndiswrapper References: <20031120031137.GA8465@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <3FBC3483.4060706@pobox.com> <20031120040034.GF19856@holomorphy.com> In-Reply-To: <20031120040034.GF19856@holomorphy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1498 Lines: 42 William Lee Irwin III wrote: > Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > >>> Even better : >>> 1) go to the Wireless LAN Howto >>> 2) find a card are supported under Linux that suit your needs >>> 3) buy this card >>> I don't see the point of giving our money to vendors that >>>don't care about us when there are vendors making a real effort toward >>>us. > > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 10:26:59PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > >>Unfortunately that leaves users without support for any recent wireless >>hardware. It gets more and more difficult to even find Linux-supported >>wireless at Fry's and other retail locations... > > > And what good would it be to have an entire driver subsystem populated > by binary-only drivers? That's not part of Linux, that's "welcome to > nvidia hell" for that subsystem too, and not just graphics cards. > > I say we should go the precise opposite direction and take a hard line > stance against binary drivers, lest we find there are none left we even > have source to and are bombarded with unfixable bugreports. Who brought binary drivers into this? And when I have ever advocated binary drivers? ndiswrapper has one use IMHO (which was pointed out me in this thread)... to assist in reverse engineering. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/