Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264290AbTKTFgm (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:36:42 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264292AbTKTFgm (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:36:42 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:14515 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264290AbTKTFgk (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:36:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBC52C6.4070101@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:36:06 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030703 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Lee Irwin III CC: Nick Piggin , Neil Brown , jt@hpl.hp.com, Linux kernel mailing list , Pontus Fuchs Subject: Re: Announce: ndiswrapper References: <20031120031137.GA8465@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <3FBC3483.4060706@pobox.com> <20031120040034.GF19856@holomorphy.com> <3FBC402E.6070109@cyberone.com.au> <16316.17526.900850.239502@notabene.cse.unsw.edu.au> <3FBC47C1.6040209@cyberone.com.au> <20031120052714.GH19856@holomorphy.com> In-Reply-To: <20031120052714.GH19856@holomorphy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1007 Lines: 29 William Lee Irwin III wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 03:49:05PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > >>I'm all for open specs, but in reality that doesn't always happen. >>(out of interest, are there any OS 3d drivers for any current cards?) >>I know what you mean, but I would find nvidia more at fault for not >>providing power management than no OS drivers. > > > The rationales for closed specs are bogus, so I have zero sympathy. Definitely agreed. When I am forced to sign NDAs to get hardware specs, the hardware IP "revealed" is inevitably something that some other company has done before, and done better. NDAs and closed specs are IMO only used by vendors to save face, when their hardware design is stupid, and their errata innumerable. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/