Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:24:22 +0200
From: Pasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4rkk=E4inen?= <pasik@iki.fi>
To: Diego Calleja =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa?= <aradorlinux@yahoo.es>
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On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 01:41:21PM +0100, Diego Calleja Garc?a wrote:
> El Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:59:46 +1100 Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au> escribi?:
> 
> > I must say that I've been using the same nvidia drivers on my desktop
> > system for maybe a year, and never had a crash including going through
> > countless versions of 2.5/6. True you need to recompile the intermediate
> 
> You're lucky.
> Nvidia drivers are broken, and it's not just linux. Their windows drivers
> are know to be buggy, too. And this is happening in windows (which has a
> "windows driver model" abi which doesn't change even between W9x and nt)
> 
> Also, they don't support non-x86 architectures in linux (they have drivers
> for mac os X though)
> If there're a lot of binary drivers for linux, we'll have the same hell
> microsoft has (w2k and XP are rock solid, until you start using crappy
> drivers, then everybody complains about blue screens). A stable and defined
> abi (like their driver model) doesn't work for them, it won't work for us. 
> 
> I don't mind running propietary code...but not in the kernel.
> 
> (BTW, are there modern graphics cards with 100% opensource drivers?)
> 

None of the new chips (r300, any nvidia, matrox, etc) has opensource 3D
drivers. 

If you want good 3D support (OpenGL) you need to use binary drivers :(

DRI (opensource) opengl-drivers have support for only ati r200 and older
cards.. so nothing new. And DRI drivers don't support the advanced features
of these cards.. so no shaders etc :(

OpenGL support in DRI drivers feels also more buggy than Nvidia/ATI binary
drivers :(

So the situation is not good..

-- Pasi K?rkk?inen
       
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