Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264330AbTKUIvO (ORCPT ); Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:51:14 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264337AbTKUIvO (ORCPT ); Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:51:14 -0500 Received: from [212.239.226.78] ([212.239.226.78]:38816 "EHLO precious.kicks-ass.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264330AbTKUItf convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:49:35 -0500 From: Jan De Luyck To: jt@hpl.hp.com, Jean Tourrilhes , "Mudama, Eric" Subject: Re: Announce: ndiswrapper Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:58:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 Cc: Linux kernel mailing list References: <785F348679A4D5119A0C009027DE33C105CDB514@mcoexc04.mlm.maxtor.com> <20031121000031.GA17869@bougret.hpl.hp.com> In-Reply-To: <20031121000031.GA17869@bougret.hpl.hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311210858.29082.lkml@kcore.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2321 Lines: 54 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 21 November 2003 01:00, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 04:53:12PM -0700, Mudama, Eric wrote: > > I think the point being made is "Why spend an extra $150 on a PCMCIA wifi > > card when there's an integrated wifi device already in the laptop that > > ndiswrapper will allow to sortof work?" > > > > The person who bought this laptop and wants to run linux on it might not > > have the extra money handy to use buying additional hardware. > > > > Not my point of view, but definitely "a" point of view. > > > > --eric > > My point is : why buy this laptop if it's not 100% > supported ? They are plenty of other laptops... > I can guarantee you that I'm more picky and more cheap than > anyone when choosing laptops, and I always get something 100% > supported. I, too, am the owner of a 'centrino' laptop, which comes with the intel Pro/ wireless 2100 card. At the time I bought it, Intel said that they would be providing linux support for centrino, and since they made good on their claims in the past, I went ahead and bought it. Unfortunately, until now, they haven't substansiated that claim yet. And, I'm not really willing to cough up another 150-200 EUR for another minipci card, which - in some cases - - even has to be of a specific type to work with the bios of the system! So, driverloader or ndiswrapper provides me with a workable solution, even though it's not really the way I like it. But it works. That's what counts for the majority of the 'desktop/laptop' linux users. They don't care how it happens, as long as it happens. Personally I'm only half in that camp, since I like to use opensource & free drivers/software if available, and will advocate the use of such software. If no decent os substitutes are available, I'll use proprietary/binary only stuff nevertheless. Jan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/vcWiUQQOfidJUwQRAp8dAJ9vxrt7K2nC9JkJgzGNw1ewsgrjNQCfTtMy P8eS3BHEjw/eBxzKNLveVMk= =/vnv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/