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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id r13-v6si14063075pfb.43.2018.10.07.02.05.17; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 02:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@ffwll.ch header.s=google header.b=UOcKcFxJ; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728080AbeJGQLi (ORCPT + 99 others); Sun, 7 Oct 2018 12:11:38 -0400 Received: from mail-io1-f68.google.com ([209.85.166.68]:39611 "EHLO mail-io1-f68.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726402AbeJGQLi (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Oct 2018 12:11:38 -0400 Received: by mail-io1-f68.google.com with SMTP id z16-v6so13739422iol.6 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 02:05:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ffwll.ch; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EqZXKVjgX1IjVsZV0H9lRpA40zXcF4ZMe6luud9XTXY=; b=UOcKcFxJqVD2/ZutFarRzMakOW+Hmxb8Mw7LbwE8ap8vtseGifO7BBf/XLQPmOISJQ 2NCp5s1bwlenV+ZXu7h0D0gE6wvXoNMODSmX/ABZTTcowgXeZtpIkAvblhqCW/Y98TkW DYGn67jd8W8BTDjW+jaSP8+WWjns39MWpM0ec= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EqZXKVjgX1IjVsZV0H9lRpA40zXcF4ZMe6luud9XTXY=; b=V7cNOk6NQtkhKuT3DJ+eZAe/VIjEY1ffAvi3G0WMhNGh0QdTWdVIbnMrGa2M869Fda lgZP1klubFOYwHFJo1KT9PLj+Y9q817FQ0sc3dvSQe0lwL0soZQg8SBuD5zfhaSLU6i5 XEFVbgvOrhdt2AzigBm68ou3SSqgAff/e48+H08B+dx3kbJWZey1B+8XcJ7a/BtMySZW Rb9BM6KqI1UtLpPceWkE0BzNuPnEOOw43Dr4IInLtp8LXclEmvnNluY159KoEAsi2fWK qn+f7fFQN5Hp8HX47+igxHWDe/vs5hkm1S+DjhRJ1Ys6y1YnYhsrQnk/cWkQWH/JnuPT de4w== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfog3xfUfs2qRa88VEHJyKqTd3nooejTq/iEdM2a7JYRKm33vwrP8 UYJBQUYhO0OsQdj8QlFj+wN96/LeIqmbyJ7FK/2UkDYj X-Received: by 2002:a6b:8d88:: with SMTP id p130-v6mr13504925iod.34.1538903100270; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 02:05:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1538861738.4088.5.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <1538861799.4088.6.camel@HansenPartnership.com> In-Reply-To: <1538861799.4088.6.camel@HansenPartnership.com> From: Daniel Vetter Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 11:04:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses To: James Bottomley Cc: ksummit , Linux Kernel Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 11:36 PM James Bottomley wrote: > > From 4a614e9440148894207bef5bf69e74071baceb3b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: James Bottomley > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 14:21:56 -0700 > Subject: [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting = email > addresses > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishi= ng > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Sinc= e > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the pa= tch > process, add an exception clause for email addresses ordinarily collected= by > the project to correct this ambiguity. > > Signed-off-by: James Bottomley > --- > Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst | 2 +- > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst b/Documentation/pr= ocess/code-of-conduct.rst > index ab7c24b5478c..aa40e34e7785 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst > @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@ Examples of unacceptable behavior by participants inclu= de: > * Trolling, insulting/derogatory comments, and personal or political att= acks > * Public or private harassment > * Publishing others=E2=80=99 private information, such as a physical or = electronic > - address, without explicit permission > + address not ordinarily collected by the project, without explicit perm= ission > * Other conduct which could reasonably be considered inappropriate in a > professional setting We've discussed this a bit with freedesktop.org people a while ago, both from a CoC and privacy regulations pov, and we concluded that attaching random people's emails in Reported-by: and similar lines, without their consent, is indeed a problem. Bugzilla is rather problematic in this way, since it looks like it's protecting your email address and keeping it private, but then you can still just grab it from the bugzilla emails without first asking for permission. That's one of the reasons why fd.o admins want to retire Bugzilla in favour of gitlab issues (where this is handled a lot more strictly). What we discussed in the older thread here on ksummit-discuss is making it clear that email addresses sent to public mailing lists are considered public information, which I think is worth clarifying. But what you're excempting here is anything collected without permission in the past, which I don't think is a good wording. I've definitely been skimping on the rules here in the past. At least in my understanding of the legal situation, if you get a bug report through a private channel, or at least a channel that hides private address information (like Bugzilla does, albeit sloppily), then you do have to ask for explicit consent to publishing that information. -Daniel --=20 Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch