Received: by 2002:ac0:a582:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id m2-v6csp1577677imm; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:48:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63Pg9KEy1mTM5QknV0jX2EKR7vvO/5//u2J8FnMD9noe6DFfFRB73bGdpDRyI3SDn0zThV3 X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:4583:: with SMTP id n3-v6mr35557108pld.255.1539218904295; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:48:24 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1539218904; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=GJJSv41nBn3u9X07sFrtfghKj5nWIphxNsp6G0uqEDYTNiGjzZfzlg4Z0pwrHKea3h Q/VJF85F3nyjivOk+57hkZmtLAzruLvKyfEFeLh66eRz6dabhNZZf8MbDg86X+Uuo2+t FnIBhT9RqXrJ65io9r2bZjaBlLky4pd2uVwzxIpOLF5buwxBMRULUzcFDwKO/MEpzoxO obZcKvXVoo0u4EgujLZV3+yVULGAIBV4HxlianKyKSHhzY05idseIWkMZ9z3yhkCVp8q c8/iVEYPij6mfSK9UmGjVr1FeQfUCuyg4Sn/JB4s/2E93Li8ouhxapta4iobMbraGx0L GNNg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:message-id:subject:to:from :date:content-transfer-encoding:dkim-signature:mime-version; bh=KLt9QpLaKxrIk9Qa52YTHfnM0fhiWz+UKFiP9UK4vDk=; b=QF2stgaNkWEcTzbu4CAHIaYSrXm0yPbo9rQhVKghlniOrAAT0y/62Oyj2WOc0iRjER zJixI8qW9zk/iyQTtcEuhGEpQUhmeNCOb4EEy21IItAgvVPHrguUKgWhIdwLcQsYIIur 4y0u+x3NTkquPcLt208SaFjZUWWZGVeIkU20w1wVz5ObvnFtxNSEQwP5iBbpo97Cx7nc xGafqWnXKoS8dCEnYHVb2S4O4qD2D/ix+3SXOEVV9TOwz6XKbB+KNV02l6xeSsVhXmE7 TpKx3YzMY0x05wH00oHvf+sYCn86KOP/J+8c9Ed+/IxsCWfyHOouG4bEKBcahnInl6es I6yA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@redchan.it header.s=mail header.b=CWucRMPi; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x33-v6si24958325pga.246.2018.10.10.17.48.09; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@redchan.it header.s=mail header.b=CWucRMPi; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726868AbeJKILW (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 04:11:22 -0400 Received: from cock.li ([185.100.85.212]:43194 "EHLO cock.li" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726016AbeJKILV (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 04:11:21 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on cock.li X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS shortcircuit=_SCTYPE_ autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=redchan.it; s=mail; t=1539218798; bh=Fw2v6hrzuIuI9bc1oZskcmEhOFl+Hwh/mjLrMWBDnTU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=CWucRMPixRLFF9+OFjD4v6Vczl8NfeDVG28Eg5O9EzTIHWMVw0iMZFWfGwL97tS7k wh7o6C1lIihM5nwHwGYVW5gITdCk47KKmAinx8ZzG9wwYSH+tULicahODawHFwEHoK 8wn1J7oNlIwHC0s8Mi6nfxWaZjoXiXJmhS6ENDQgElq4Htw4coS5DUobzSVPyrQL2U QqZEwk19Ptj5ojfVeNY3H5ayaPF1lT+Skf2FlsivCOIoWm8SEZP5wK0npLy1n8gCt8 3+C/XJVt+E8Y+2rxuVd1xCDBM2i6lPO3bFLX6LqjFqJLOlcapUjWtjMxJq1Hoo4s/l nciiU6ArlJuAA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 00:46:38 +0000 From: missingterms@redchan.it To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: On holy wars, and a plea for peace Message-ID: X-Sender: missingterms@redchan.it User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Three avenues to rescind GPLv2 property. RAP strategy added. Here's a case in NY where a Software distributor agreement violated New York's Rule Against Perpetuities McAllister Software Systems, Inc. v. Henry Schein, Inc., No. 06-0093, 2008 WL 922328 (E.D. Mo. April 2, 2008) So we see that atleast one court in an important* jurisdiction is applying the RAP with regards to intellectual property. So: Attack 1: license rescission under property law (non-exclusive gratuity for which no consideration was given, and no utterances to irrevokability by grantor vis-a-vis licensee uttered, thus can be rescinded at will). Attack 2: license rescission citing no term-of-years, thus at-will licensing (until the parties no-longer agree). (This one works in the UK) Jurisdictional attack: if defendant claims license is perpetual [Or you could simply use it as an alternative argument from the get-go] Attack 2b: license is a nullity (void from it's inception) due to RAP. *(Wallstreet is in NY. I wonder if they use and/or modify linux kernel for anything?)