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Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 3798903 From: David Howells In-Reply-To: <16207.1539249451@warthog.procyon.org.uk> References: <16207.1539249451@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <5c6f3d62-4cec-2aea-4693-62928611c526@gmail.com> <153754740781.17872.7869536526927736855.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <153754743491.17872.12115848333103740766.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <862e36a2-2a6f-4e26-3228-8cab4b4cf230@gmail.com> To: viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Alan Jenkins , torvalds@linux-foundation.org, ebiederm@xmission.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mszeredi@redhat.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/34] teach move_mount(2) to work with OPEN_TREE_CLONE [ver #12] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <6532.1539260096.1@warthog.procyon.org.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:14:56 +0100 Message-ID: <6533.1539260096@warthog.procyon.org.uk> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.16 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.49]); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:15:09 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org David Howells wrote: > The reason that you can do this with open_tree()/move_mount() is that it > allows you to create a mount tree (OPEN_TREE_CLONE) that has no namespace > assignment, pass it through the namespace switch and then attach it inside the > child namespace. The cross-namespace checks in do_move_mount() are bypassed > because the root of the newly-cloned mount tree doesn't have one. It's worse than that. The apparently disconnected tree given you by open_tree(OPEN_TREE_CLONE) is still subject to modification by outside forces. All it takes is one shared object within that tree. So I do wonder if it's possible to form a ring, even in an upstream kernel, by using the propagation mechanism to push through an nsfs mount into itself, possibly with a layer of indirection (ie. having two mutually-referential namespaces). David