Received: by 2002:ac0:a582:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id m2-v6csp2121160imm; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:33:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63YuEZHtPBHcUBG0iqcRx/hI4EXVNAE3sR9AB2FVvZNHtnUlvhYzMeg/d0FHOqWhQY4MYP5 X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:bf0a:: with SMTP id bi10-v6mr1415102plb.72.1539261229900; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:33:49 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1539261229; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=v/bgw32Sal0gyJmqGQheJtyBRDkzg57vJoqjd3vLiPVe/w8eLXg6czFh+JG540jl76 zS/Ig0sT/shjYK2Ni4uECnlWbUuvdt8vAtQvsgjlYfFwQHu7kjJmt/I/HduYE7jRZ9jv TlkxlULG+4hKsmwwkSxqs8EH6hfCpdkM+qqkLUPQ69RR3PVe9W3VCMeKN7D0JOY1V28Y lKWtR0uJXWlmVBExxtNloQZD4y89kBGgr/be0C6+cPNLQIeleU9H2cb7HMOroKf7XySO QhBNhYJ4nZi26a71IdViTvUFuXGHR/TfD37Lz8ec7oMLU2Zx8vwgxZ0F2dx0dqqhHZW9 Rexg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :organization:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from :date; bh=U80SSjgs9zRaN+OsmGOWM1JLC4Gil4XuiHhQUEKOj+U=; b=ZofuFBQr0WKdoQBOIgGqQdc0icJTIWtJnMfk1r9fOp07Lp3bVmEjyLKz3W9sPxtv/B MS1590Q1LlhbEpbO4w/t73p/8opkaD6+5AhOYckE7VHw79AFwQ2Tsnl7MIC1qBo2RF66 teB37V0hn8YJAnNKZsCu/fTkcXTwlQy0+rnTypF8h6vJCgEDLbQyufiIEXpqCM1gTkE7 QYQJqDZHpzpa20nQF3w/wsCp/nAdJ/XuVvFnltrwtHyhwKztaTasqV+qHL94I3RzjRN4 MwhRSCq9XkWzdU8qVeE0P5IXvL77/y4SodCV5ttX1Acf3yIsOQzvamf2PgN5xa1zppdg H+fA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 30-v6si3195591plb.102.2018.10.11.05.33.34; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728008AbeJKT6q (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:58:46 -0400 Received: from www.llwyncelyn.cymru ([82.70.14.225]:41760 "EHLO fuzix.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726537AbeJKT6p (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:58:45 -0400 Received: from alans-desktop (82-70-14-226.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.70.14.226]) by fuzix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w9BCVZhB023345; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:31:35 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:31:34 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: hpa@zytor.com Cc: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Jiri Slaby , Johan Hovold , Alexander Viro Subject: Re: Insanely high baud rates Message-ID: <20181011133134.085624af@alans-desktop> In-Reply-To: <16D6AB22-697E-498C-A5B2-3AD90B567E86@zytor.com> References: <3fcef1c1-d746-ae82-c0e6-f079b1a53ffb@zytor.com> <20181010211717.30c1f052@alans-desktop> <16D6AB22-697E-498C-A5B2-3AD90B567E86@zytor.com> Organization: Intel Corporation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > I'm mostly wondering if it is worth future-proofing for new transports. It sounds like we can have a consensus on leaving the upper 4 bits of the speed fields reserved, but leave the details of implementation for the future? It seems reasonable, although I think the reality is that any future transport is not going to be a true serial link, but some kind of serial emulation layer. For those the speed really only matters to tell editors and the like not to bother being clever. I mean - what is the baud rate of a pty ? Alan