Received: by 2002:ac0:a582:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id m2-v6csp367857imm; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:49:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60aP1tKxODvPE/w4C3z74ZCr/pYjreteHoAQyetcUP45aN22KCEPZ/iaMpkmcCuZD1JoFXF X-Received: by 2002:a62:3384:: with SMTP id z126-v6mr4565607pfz.85.1539323398831; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:49:58 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1539323398; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=BBCVVVwMb/B2dEfKekJhaLsyLd3JbTcsPlaIVoKoji4+1kFGdBXaU+UlgVlFz+aIE6 ZMOIoN5o6AiFhjOXJbuiAFFrqMsiK+Nxk7reoPL0uo9cD5zCXc/2ZESuaClts3ZlLAyo x9e1HLLN9RyB4TgOM16bP4nZ0fYClYfGq/3Y/SWt8k0nAloxVoufUWOuZCsW+7aKo1EP fiVUh7BkzIHTcpW365vJp3s6zJ6N2bB8E8ok3q2QDkFQaw735a2vz2ZNVh5QnY1aOOI3 RaeVTa/GnVXlj7yvPqSXe8ccr2GU+SIfP5boCGINyP9X3TfUiT9+0z1K+7a18mjYuRdr xXeQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:content-transfer-encoding :content-language:in-reply-to:mime-version:user-agent:date :message-id:from:references:to:subject; bh=MAdsqKyqLV2eZjeSqUu5jpk0U/FJtm/YjUAw9MAJMBE=; b=nwoA7a172RFkQPdwpJicBWE9EGnRymyxUU5NFZ0NLuYKryNOsjT7VkLeHwsLMfYGlm 3LmNxjq+hhLTajYw3yx6RITRuPxPcodT106t6Tq5up17WG9pQ+4oXENtAXsjbqy+FDBq QzBcMuMS0Qql3tV13g/sKg89rPEcFTu3lGX4W+p3UL+j49N+VSS73CT+tOQHsXcnVKy0 SpByi7Qha2r5NQzM7PuIoCBnUu42dytjB5ordqUGt0tNAt551nXr+bwfQEEJD21iHP/U MgPNS3JyF6uY/iE+4VRz/u6RZjiq1D3YKeW73JaiOZy8laduru3636VLs6WPRTgEEJl9 90lQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q23-v6si193054pll.155.2018.10.11.22.49.43; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727528AbeJLNT7 (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 12 Oct 2018 09:19:59 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.136]:56557 "EHLO mail.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727286AbeJLNT7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 Oct 2018 09:19:59 -0400 Received: from carbon-x1.hos.anvin.org (c-24-5-245-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.5.245.234] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.zytor.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w9C5mv702225361 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:48:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Insanely high baud rates To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Alan Cox , linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Jiri Slaby , Johan Hovold , Alexander Viro References: <3fcef1c1-d746-ae82-c0e6-f079b1a53ffb@zytor.com> <20181010211717.30c1f052@alans-desktop> <16D6AB22-697E-498C-A5B2-3AD90B567E86@zytor.com> <20181011133134.085624af@alans-desktop> <8A583BC1-A295-48D2-B4C3-3E70AA50D035@zytor.com> <20181011214035.GC565@thunk.org> From: "H. Peter Anvin" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:48:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181011214035.GC565@thunk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 10/11/18 2:40 PM, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 07:14:30AM -0700, hpa@zytor.com wrote: >>> >>> I mean - what is the baud rate of a pty ? >> >> Whatever the master wants it to be... > > I think Alan's point is that it is highly unlikely you would be able > to push the equivalent of 4 gbps through a PTY layer. The TTY later > was never engineered for those speeds, and the real question is --- > what's the point? That's what Ethernet is for. > I like to consider the far future; I think things like the Y2038 problem is a good example. Or, as I like to put it, "numbers are cheap, running out of numbers is expensive." Sounds like we have enough of a plan that we aren't completely stuck should it ever become an issue. It might never, of course. -hpa