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received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: fb.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: 8o7oVDqFbxVz16nadR/u1oT6hFaK8dagWJI7cE2iUW5vknwJplVVTos5JREvU8Cg8TWyqz3yc0owAUsKtOmOyebPVTOn9qaTI2PWsQcwKvHM6PM8uj15ocbMyM1mpYwGFS62PckQJo0WU9Q1MZZD/4zgUKtbDP605uy7RXiiic4nuBrOPpQchvD1lyZC5Va6+ZhO8Im9x2zmXCbEWh5AA4U+7au7AsqkoWQ3XzaJhmGGsmKrdyt3vkvNtRtRN44lx7F8oIZWhGHSZI3x6h7F9BgR3+HsM/vGYM0/v2JtRmuX75ZwF5UEdsq4rVDE3NwYOSlJaERyRtJTbxXPTd21oW4mG0IBDDBeMxTZDUnBnMQ= spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 6a0208e4-863f-4453-ab06-08d633853088 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 16 Oct 2018 16:34:05.6012 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 8ae927fe-1255-47a7-a2af-5f3a069daaa2 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MWHPR15MB1296 X-OriginatorOrg: fb.com X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2018-10-16_11:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Reason: safe X-FB-Internal: Safe Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > On Oct 16, 2018, at 2:50 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote: >=20 > On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 08:31:37AM +0000, Song Liu wrote: >=20 >> The only suggestion I have right now is on which struct owns which >> data: >>=20 >> 1. perf_cpu_context owns two perf_event_context: ctx and *task_ctx.=20 >> This is the same as right now.=20 >=20 >> 2. perf_event_context owns multiple perf_event_pmu_context:=20 >> One perf_event_pmu_context for software groups; >> One perf_event_pmu_context for each hardware PMU. >=20 > It does now already, right? Through the pmu_ctx_list we can, given an > perf_event_context, find all associated perf_event_pmu_context's. Yes, this is very similar to right now. It is related to #4, #5 below.=20 With current patch, perf_cpu_pmu_context is more like the "owner" of the per CPU perf_event_pmu_context. I feel it is more natural that=20 perf_cpu_context is the owner of perf_event_pmu_context, while the perf_cpu_pmu_context doesn't own anything.=20 Again, the difference to current patch is very small.=20 >=20 >> 3. perf_event_pmu_context owns RB tree of events. Since we don't=20 >> need rotation across multiple hardware PMUs, the rotation is=20 >> within same perf_event_pmu_context. =20 >=20 > By keeping the RB trees in perf_event_context, we get bigger trees, > which is more efficient (log(n+m) < log(n) + log(m)) >=20 > Also, specifically, it means we only need a single merge sort / > iteration to schedule in a full context, instead of (again) doing 'n' of > them. >=20 > Also, given a context and a pmu, it is cheaper for finding the relevant > events; this is needed for big.little for instance. Something the > proposed patch doesn't fully flesh out. Would it be faster if we add a perf_event_pmu_context pointer to the=20 perf_event? I think a group on hw PMU-a should never know a group on hw PMU-b. So some separation would make things simpler.=20 Thanks, Song