Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265443AbUAAUmK (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Jan 2004 15:42:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264566AbUAAUjN (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Jan 2004 15:39:13 -0500 Received: from hueytecuilhuitl.mtu.ru ([195.34.32.123]:60170 "EHLO hueymiccailhuitl.mtu.ru") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265410AbUAAUds (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Jan 2004 15:33:48 -0500 From: Andrey Borzenkov To: linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: removable media revalidation - udev vs. devfs or static /dev Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:33:04 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401012333.04930.arvidjaar@mail.ru> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1420 Lines: 32 udev names are created when kernel detects corr. device. Unfortunately for removable media kernel rescans for partitions only when I try to access device. Meaning - because kernel does not know partition table it did not send hotplug event so udev did not create device nodes. But without device nodes I have no way to access device in Unix :( specifically I have now my Jaz and I have no (reasonable) way to access partition 4 assuming device nodes are managed by udev. devfs solved this problem by - always exporting at least handle to the whole disk (sda as example) - using something simple like dd if=/dev/sda count=1 on lookup for non-existing partition (/dev/sda4) that would rescan partitions and create device nodes for them. static /dev simply has all nodes available and does not suffer from this problem at all. unfortunately there are no lookup events in case if udev ... meaning at this moment user must manually rescan partitions after inserting new media. I do not see any way to solve this problem at all given current implementation. The closest is to blindly create nodes for all partitions as soon as block device is available. -andrey - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/