Received: by 2002:ac0:aa62:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id w31-v6csp486809ima; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:31:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60yZatvrvYjTREmwq8h/unSTh4jIlgw+etH22nwirh6jRILxmf9WSs0KkqpZjzmlEtt+s6A X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:788d:: with SMTP id q13-v6mr37066026pll.329.1540060274995; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:31:14 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1540060274; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=Qs8I1d1e+SJvDNB4rLSmvHYNL71UeDpLBFHes82+kye3Eh1o3jchnbeh49AIboApaT uosWgtVkRgFv9OSTIKjd5ZIlfGEjyekGcHPv6Yx7gUSJ2ryNrapo7b/n6aGhji9BRyEW 97/fzO3mrnF+VVOtAY7FbxgiwG2JHxMf5VIFCDgVyZDSMZYRN9j0/m+46b81hyHOWNYp MIARPumeEzZB6GWR3SecYvtQO8U/A1M8DdoLUQ0BhNoiamCk0vtPvaGVEaG18JptCYGj 5LYHaFqxwjPALtFEu+3UgZAOYPHj8CgFXMt3BJ4rQXJLjnYXw9Po9nHIREd1rW6YRckJ N3Sw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :organization:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from :date; bh=0LP0InNi4EW73ltFV5duRK4KQYjTG2tW0lD493bFGxA=; b=BTbFfIIoggGjzCnvZ3NDIYk/N/2ReGg6oAn4++MytVFITmf8GQpfUzwq0Y2H3Sz7Gk KWmQYy5fppNgDDbt+zsWrlBYaKH04yYBH8FeF3lPi2dFn3E6QD3kbT8Z6eVPDAgrBdup /5zgPilPtfIRwEUU/yMy8fdJGTJk5D0x/6kV/+y2x3/cqznWyqSlPCPFHE4zYNQnpfYl 123HKY5YiNj5B7Pc/OJ7vvvBm7eGSsw4VUU4MkXiMOHGeJgSd1rLJgCQMsMWF0O2BUnf ctDQc3J5eVoWKJjQ1JWbaCCHYY0Xz4WKx0sQ+RMYhGn3c2mbwpJgH/FrHoaozKP22NcQ 92GQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j190-v6si26705602pgc.149.2018.10.20.11.30.23; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727497AbeJUCkR (ORCPT + 99 others); Sat, 20 Oct 2018 22:40:17 -0400 Received: from www.llwyncelyn.cymru ([82.70.14.225]:53166 "EHLO fuzix.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727350AbeJUCkR (ORCPT ); Sat, 20 Oct 2018 22:40:17 -0400 Received: from alans-desktop (82-70-14-226.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.70.14.226]) by fuzix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w9KISjB7006178; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:28:45 +0100 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:28:45 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: linux-kernel , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Thomas Gleixner , Olof Johansson , Chris Mason , Mishi Choudhary Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address Message-ID: <20181020192845.48b8b860@alans-desktop> In-Reply-To: <20181020135118.GG32218@kroah.com> References: <20181020134908.GA32218@kroah.com> <20181020135118.GG32218@kroah.com> Organization: Intel Corporation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > +to the circumstances. The Code of Conduct Committee is obligated to > +maintain confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an incident. > +Further details of specific enforcement policies may be posted > +separately. Unfortunately by ignoring the other suggestions on this you've left this bit broken. The committee can't keep most stuff confidential so it's misleading and wrong to imply they can. Data protection law, reporting laws in some countries and the like mean that anyone expecting an incident to remain confidential from the person it was reported against is living in dreamland and are going to get a nasty shock. At the very least it should say '(except where required by law)'. There is a separate issue that serious things should always go to law enforcement - you are setting up a policy akin to the one that got the catholic church and many others in trouble. You should also reserving the right to report serious incidents directly to law enforcement. Unless of course you want to be forced to sit on multiple reports of physical abuse from different people about someone - unable to tell them about each others report, unable to prove anything, and in twenty years time having to explain to the media why nothing was done. Alan