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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 1-v6si36247512plq.274.2018.10.22.20.55.05; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727264AbeJWMP4 (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:15:56 -0400 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:34452 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726977AbeJWMP4 (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:15:56 -0400 Received: from viro by ZenIV.linux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.90_1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1gEnlx-0002yI-9P; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 03:54:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 04:54:25 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Vito Caputo Cc: linux-kernel , reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Reiser4 Linux 4.17.19-1 hangs in Google cloud VM, too. Message-ID: <20181023035425.GS32577@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20181022101912.3CE2E292B005@huitzilopochtli.metztli-it.com> <20181023033852.GR32577@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20181023034719.tqkvdj2eakh2uh2q@shells.gnugeneration.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181023034719.tqkvdj2eakh2uh2q@shells.gnugeneration.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 08:47:19PM -0700, Vito Caputo wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 04:38:52AM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 03:19:12AM -0700, Metztli Information Technology wrote: > > > I installed reiser4 -enhanced Linux kernel 4.17.19-1 --thus replacing the prior hung reiser4 -patched kernel 4.18.15-1 in the Google Compute Engine (GCE) cloud instance. After less than 24 hours the 4.17.19-1 hung in similar way to the 4.18.15-1. > > > > > > Please note that I had been running my custom Metztli Reiser4 Debian Stretch image with reiser4 linux 4.14.20-1 without issues for several months > > > < https://github.com/Metztli/reiser4-debian-kernel-packaging-4.14.20 > --until I decided to upgrade to newer kernel(s). > > > > Er... Does anybody maintain reiser4 these days? I can't recall a single mail > > along the lines of "such-and-such VFS/VM/scheduler/etc. change would break reiser4" > > in quite a few years (more than a decade, most likely)... > > I've wondered if we should rename reiserfs to something else. As-is, > it's not likely to attract any developers since it may as well be named > hitlerfs or something similarly uncomfortable to explain to a > significant other as what you've been working on. Sigh... Godwin Law in action, at the third posting in thread ;-/ > That is, assuming it's going to continue to exist in-tree... reiser4 has never been in-tree to start with. And name is completely irrelevant - all I'm refering to is that I have not seen any postings on l-k/fsdevel/etc. from anybody working on that particular out-of-tree codebase. Put it that way - I would expect the bitrot from (apparent) decade-long inactivity to be a much more serious problem than anything naming-related.