Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262566AbUACENy (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:13:54 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262569AbUACENy (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:13:54 -0500 Received: from kweetal.tue.nl ([131.155.3.6]:3592 "EHLO kweetal.tue.nl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262566AbUACENx (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Jan 2004 23:13:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 04:00:13 +0100 From: Andries Brouwer To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Rob Love , Andries Brouwer , rob@landley.net, Pascal Schmidt , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg KH Subject: Re: udev and devfs - The final word Message-ID: <20040103040013.A3100@pclin040.win.tue.nl> References: <18Cz7-7Ep-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <20040101001549.GA17401@win.tue.nl> <1072917113.11003.34.camel@fur> <200401010634.28559.rob@landley.net> <1072970573.3975.3.camel@fur> <20040101164831.A2431@pclin040.win.tue.nl> <1072972440.3975.29.camel@fur> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from torvalds@osdl.org on Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 12:42:41PM -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1003 Lines: 28 On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 12:42:41PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: Hi Linus - A happy 2004 ! > Note that one reason I didn't much like the 64-bit versions is that not > only are they bigger, they also encourage insanity. Ie you'd find SCSI > people who want to try to encode device/controller/bus/target/lun info > into the device number. Weak. "We don't want this power that has good uses because it also can be used stupidly." That is not Unix-style. > We should resist any effort that makes the numbers "mean" something. They > are random cookies. Not "unique identifiers", and not "addresses". Random cookies? I prefer "arbitrary" over "random". The value plays no role at all, but it must be unique, preferably stable across reboots. Andries - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/