Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264384AbUADBSR (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:18:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264405AbUADBSR (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:18:17 -0500 Received: from findaloan.ca ([66.11.177.6]:44430 "EHLO mark.mielke.cc") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264384AbUADBSP (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:18:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:16:26 -0500 From: Mark Mielke To: Andries Brouwer Cc: Linus Torvalds , Rob Love , rob@landley.net, Pascal Schmidt , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg KH Subject: Re: udev and devfs - The final word Message-ID: <20040104011626.GB6398@mark.mielke.cc> Mail-Followup-To: Andries Brouwer , Linus Torvalds , Rob Love , rob@landley.net, Pascal Schmidt , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg KH References: <200401010634.28559.rob@landley.net> <1072970573.3975.3.camel@fur> <20040101164831.A2431@pclin040.win.tue.nl> <1072972440.3975.29.camel@fur> <20040103040013.A3100@pclin040.win.tue.nl> <20040103141029.B3393@pclin040.win.tue.nl> <20040104000840.A3625@pclin040.win.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040104000840.A3625@pclin040.win.tue.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1612 Lines: 34 On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 12:08:40AM +0100, Andries Brouwer wrote: > On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 02:27:47PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > And then a high-quality implementation actually ends up being > > _detrimental_. It's hiding problems that can still happen, they just > > happen rarely enough that the bugs don't get found and fixed. > Empty talk. This is not about finding and fixing bugs. > We know very precisely what properties the NFS protocol has. > Now one can have a system that works as well as possible with NFS. > And one can have a worse system. It seems to me that as long as /dev is always a local mount (tmpfs in the case of an NFS-root installation), it doesn't really matter. Maintaining system-specific information on a remote machine seems dirty, and something that shouldn't be *expected* to work. You wouldn't expect /proc to work over NFS, would you? :-) mark -- mark@mielke.cc/markm@ncf.ca/markm@nortelnetworks.com __________________________ . . _ ._ . . .__ . . ._. .__ . . . .__ | Neighbourhood Coder |\/| |_| |_| |/ |_ |\/| | |_ | |/ |_ | | | | | | \ | \ |__ . | | .|. |__ |__ | \ |__ | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... http://mark.mielke.cc/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/