Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265094AbUADFqL (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Jan 2004 00:46:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265137AbUADFqL (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Jan 2004 00:46:11 -0500 Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net ([216.254.0.205]:21439 "EHLO mail5.speakeasy.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265094AbUADFqJ (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Jan 2004 00:46:09 -0500 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.0.20040103214203.038dceb0@no.incoming.mail> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 21:45:47 -0800 To: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk From: Jeff Woods Subject: Re: Should struct inode be made available to userspace? Cc: Bill Davidsen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20040103185712.GV4176@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> References: <200312292040.00409.mmazur@kernel.pl> <20031229195742.GL4176@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <20040103185712.GV4176@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 940 Lines: 23 At 1/3/2004 06:57 PM +0000, viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk wrote: >On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 01:39:41PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>Moving the definitions is fine, but some user programs, like backup >>programs, do benefit from direct interpretation of the inode. Clearly >>that's not a normal user program, but this information is not only useful >>inside the kernel. > >No, they do not. They care about on-disk structures, not the in-core ones >fs driver happens to build. They may if trying to do an online backup of open files, especially if attempting to maintain transactional integrity (i.e. make the backup logically atomic). -- Jeff Woods - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/