Received: by 2002:ac0:98c7:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id g7-v6csp258446imd; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 08:08:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dqd76AoEW0vfz8392NL0NXWuVDiInJ6/MEpJkE+tVgSnl87R7zkafmRbb7ELZTi7dlKTWF X-Received: by 2002:a62:c2c1:: with SMTP id w62-v6mr4027455pfk.35.1540566507252; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 08:08:27 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1540566507; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=RrRTigUVMnv8kLKBvTx4v0cyzwLHKmBmHPwQPNOVfCtcnxAqX6p9qCy7mqu/xXcL7X XMDTHhVj3XoD0CwRDxaMh+3cPTWqAfXMcs1qvV46IuOmL4SA0bb34kM53XLvPoKPCyAQ 26dpRZc/4gE0GdQWYnSfOK2iIsTJOVUqxsNATInKqDrgKe0fc9WHGDrz5Q49kp6YexQa oRt3OpXv53FRcpf6X52WVyFSuPGWyY8XRR1P3pIVaW//6ay0e3v2oLO2pyuA1P6E78GB VDfaGYx0aaG+qGAO4qTwfm9XEPMnQRzjw7/6ku/1/5mEkQH4mVVKeiqJ3vQooUIpE8Yd JrYg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :organization:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from :date; bh=GIHau4C8PtGFRXryUHyxEHp/B3oMONp+d/9cqGdTtvc=; b=H71oo3FuPXhTZ2qY5pUW9PKAnqSEo2pL0jiew1F13kB/UJ3iDvCuiEfRn/Y6NUHof1 ks7NuMVBmrvv1pnP5F7HmTDbajD+w0VusJhGy6rEPTlDdfUNDQM2Z+CnEteP6gJl1DSO pD/qtlMzJ2XY1crPKpHjFXOKYqpFkijJkFtcediUEtpAQoOAw1Cg3c430sTn4nO5QzZF CcAlRlx1Q0G1dk++xJgEABIGUph7Gr9PMfY8IsdMq7Kb6Qr7NvDaPH+AZM8nyEUEn6bS kkl2dyIenqhfGfWeZn1XuYYTdAOn/H5KCMxcZtHOVmJ5wfTTBRSopClCS0CylcKcYjSD Pppw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id z127-v6si11566178pgb.118.2018.10.26.08.08.10; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 08:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727564AbeJZXmr (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 26 Oct 2018 19:42:47 -0400 Received: from ms.lwn.net ([45.79.88.28]:48812 "EHLO ms.lwn.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726159AbeJZXmr (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Oct 2018 19:42:47 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36A822B7; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 09:05:18 -0600 From: Jonathan Corbet To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Igor Stoppa , Mimi Zohar , Kees Cook , Matthew Wilcox , Dave Chinner , James Morris , Michal Hocko , kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, igor.stoppa@huawei.com, Dave Hansen , Laura Abbott , Randy Dunlap , Mike Rapoport , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/17] prmem: documentation Message-ID: <20181026090518.6f3c064e@lwn.net> In-Reply-To: <20181026092609.GB3159@worktop.c.hoisthospitality.com> References: <20181023213504.28905-1-igor.stoppa@huawei.com> <20181023213504.28905-11-igor.stoppa@huawei.com> <20181026092609.GB3159@worktop.c.hoisthospitality.com> Organization: LWN.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:26:09 +0200 Peter Zijlstra wrote: > Jon, > > So the below document is a prime example for why I think RST sucks. As a > text document readability is greatly diminished by all the markup > nonsense. Please don't confused RST with the uses of it. The fact that one can do amusing things with the C preprocessor doesn't, on its own, make C suck... > > This stuff should not become write-only content like html and other > gunk. The actual text file is still the primary means of reading this. I agree that the text file comes first, and I agree that the markup in this particular document is excessive. Igor, just like #ifdef's make code hard to read, going overboard with RST markup makes text hard to read. It's a common trap to fall into, because it lets you make slick-looking web pages, but that is not our primary goal here. Many thanks for writing documentation for this feature, that already puts you way ahead of a discouraging number of contributors. But could I ask you, please, to make a pass over it and reduce the markup to a minimum? Using lists as suggested by Markus would help here. Thanks, jon