Received: by 2002:ac0:98c7:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id g7-v6csp310318imd; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 08:54:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fjYsMxBhvnLp/SNMv9ug9uCDDRI7Y2ZgTrZou+bqUpkLyCg66vTZ0u896TaUSgAE9svOFJ X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:4281:: with SMTP id h1-v6mr4081283pld.114.1540569247987; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 08:54:07 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1540569247; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=vOxcXQRxx8NI4XgBM1TxOZvSverGN6yCgx8K7VPzODhJgtmxG7nR7uIlcx2huwRKIi /H0bs7ZRYj4oXPIEYF9nKnfUAVirBZc0sVs65k6Gp16FHbulqCjwIZuEfwUT/j/SWTX9 I9t712BM1bzKCyDBkv1D3ZlQJB7BiSPs555CfeioRHbFKXZfhOir5IJpbz8cwky9CpTO KQKN83Jd5fF8jVujxCVrcTF0AVJoqIhR+nObg7ZnSXKe1AM+WpnCg9Yd8rrjov3htBF+ btUrOQG/yijhcToXnP5s8eVzd8XIKu6kzaPO7Ya0cCnCIn2LzCa/qCNqXeOjt4o/QEwu kbgg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:reply-to:from:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id :date; bh=PpPl5dU89NCwJxmmjhj6P4PDIU5ZuICpVndHVpBZI88=; b=jcaLXWjVwGhUDBEn31z4VAaN3ZBg1erSIdjoUTaY/LA5a5V0n9GgXE63ZKoiRdCKQn jDLjiDwt1BL6trWIxGehr/dcgCYA24hQot97+PBSz0PxrZAxhTiXgf6IXbzNkISJ9c48 s2i2yqrvo1FHPvrg8HOfD3RJbZ8Y4nsjIMiPHyM/7bxGOPwt33MbSPMVW00CZdlt4Sb1 EVuPnoG6jZwXFNRGFL7qfiSN21sPukppQwzW6J2ABkqryeBrTk3DtaSRDI5HWrxj11W7 ewTdJODcrSoTnJNr2rCgRwvadEKXFZGY3nFbhV3MPLKev769ZzjXS9/TYyP87j6jRTW7 4bHg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f3-v6si11712806plf.415.2018.10.26.08.53.51; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 08:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726949AbeJ0Aa4 (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 26 Oct 2018 20:30:56 -0400 Received: from moglen4.apt.columbia.edu ([160.39.60.15]:47573 "EHLO moglen4.apt.columbia.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726113AbeJ0Aa4 (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Oct 2018 20:30:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (moglen1.apt.columbia.edu [160.39.60.12]) by moglen4.apt.columbia.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6B11A2E0158; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:53:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:53:20 -0400 Message-Id: <2835-Fri26Oct2018115320-0400-eben@harlan.sflc-vpn> X-Mailer: emacs 23; VM 8.1.0 under 23.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: esr@thyrsus.com Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, visionsofalice@redchan.it, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rms@gnu.org, bruce@perens.com, bkuhn@sfconservancy.org, editor@lwn.net, neil@brown.name, labbott@redhat.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, tglx@linutronix.de, olof@lixom.net, clm@fb.com, mishi@linux.com, linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: The linux devs can rescind their license grant. In-Reply-To: Eric S. Raymond's message of Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:50:01 -0400 <20181026155001.GA6327@thyrsus.com> References: <20181020134908.GA32218@kroah.com> <87y3ar80ac.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> <185b786a2bd6e8d527dca161dc42e4f1@redchan.it> <20181025081911.GB11343@kroah.com> <20181025193901.GD26403@thyrsus.com> <849-Fri26Oct2018091533-0400-eben@harlan.sflc-vpn> <20181026155001.GA6327@thyrsus.com> From: Eben Moglen Reply-To: Eben Moglen Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Friday, 26 October 2018, Eric S. Raymond wrote: Eben Moglen : > reputational damage is *specifically* recognized as grounds for relief. > > No. Reputational damage is not mentioned at all, let alone > specifically recognized. I have no difficulty in finding the word "reputation" in the brief in in proximity with the phrase "increasing [the programmer's] recognition i The parties' briefs are not the court opinion, and don't represent what was decided. Wrong document. I linked to the opinion in my message. Eben