Received: by 2002:ac0:98c7:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id g7-v6csp1677319imd; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 14:46:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eduKyBIjWbwdLmR9xU+jT2UKqdS01QTzA8y4m1DDvP2O+LkQccS3pbs2vOiFKf6rntTTLC X-Received: by 2002:a63:ff1b:: with SMTP id k27-v6mr2675527pgi.199.1540676814722; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 14:46:54 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1540676814; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=slv+NeQG4h+wY0uSDKVJZWOyYWEy+NCdQaCGqZEE875sq1Oz0rmLuRZLtmWXVVFcSm mHycpl4IIfFJA97CChpWi219rCtFj0V6gtZMlWWQ4dg/HbN40RGj160Zsa5WbZrgd6RZ KCAhjVVmt+5THznFF+t7wfXTD+1h6OKcl4Ci3vXeegLv3oLCJ2rw9A+56ofF19Ecx9it FuUaNTHPYDuUlmG7OwB5DLgRc+7NS4SLorlbEhqGFtPyZqqrPtQT4Npsh4mVx6kkoJph PVlV8zY8QLlAvgmkjqwkGCUHvMnu6bASeT7mgrAzndoM/BfunIsI4TBmeH8FbJfbSPUp mvDQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:user-agent:references :message-id:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=eeBMmtgOpNWwYMmwMFWnfuCdT2bjVxau2iN7KlQ4znM=; b=wb3hZRNQEAUjvjILf2rIEaChXhU8OxjmnbFhYE8U/HCPac9hsuWZYfhLGlH7Fozr31 wGgAkvTZ8GgtIL3JFVptMFR7aJCIV4m1zWsLmFkEleRICYmyw/YOBxdxJO+TBiCkDFBD nhiPsMRR1VL1YCSbzrDEvtMVHVSN+bzxdqZzg9O+vv3mpGi56+i4U7MkB6exBAvtMAdJ kG3yyaAVKuBKyu6XK+06RqeNOSKY1gr1YqYbwUmlcrUSbF4FGMk2nOcjdTtR8rSn7Vlj YwdEw4lNdGFvQCLFPmVPnwNuPZEaToRalPMiQxtoVN7xDAZHEedR30Bc5wxntRhc5F9S m4eA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g15-v6si15519460pgh.33.2018.10.27.14.46.01; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 14:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728683AbeJ1G13 (ORCPT + 99 others); Sun, 28 Oct 2018 02:27:29 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:53922 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728532AbeJ1G13 (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Oct 2018 02:27:29 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay1.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7419EAFA6; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 23:45:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Jiri Kosina To: Linus Torvalds cc: joe@perches.com, Benjamin Tissoires , linux-input@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Another HID problem this merge window.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LSU 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, Linus Torvalds wrote: > I wonder if there is some truly old historical legacy there, ie the old > PC keyboard support would have been configurable out only for expert > users to avoid errors, and maybe the HID Kconfig file started getting > ideas from that... This really goes waaay back to times when we extracted all the quirks from the generic driver (which became unmaintainable exactly because quirks being sprinkled left and right) into specialized drivers, but didn't want to cause too many user surprises that all of a sudden their configuration regressed when it comes to hardware support. We've had exactly this discussion multiple times before, see for example https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/5/20/227 So I guess there is no need for replaying it, I think we're in complete agreement. That being said, benff Kconfig setting definitely escaped attention. That should never ever have been set to default y, I take blame for not noticing that while applying the patch. Thanks, -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs