Received: by 2002:ac0:98c7:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id g7-v6csp1692733imd; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 15:12:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fYWuZJut+PbVNXKfGwpNaTaZAMqlUE4rWhL26BI2GdckfBi+9Ii4NR5JV16nX/oD7qtyHy X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:8f94:: with SMTP id z20-v6mr8512471plo.175.1540678337269; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 15:12:17 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1540678337; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=QgOx+msIpIZOQ8/TBYx+viMTBwmKCYZCXQFnTeHMH6sLfvqz8pbeNpYWZMuAfEcP5M yRKMjl9M4LTTnUs5z2Z7cljSQEaF/fGl8CIx92vzjAgiVm7TZhu52BlnM4wwculwhbKx kPkV9tOu91GQOS0P1nSdpoB5hJXTgGB7lqe0b7U9HbcPwLwptDPcuSR+9EZJcu0Rxvfi cjrzbyaS6HgjfUr3p5dT4dBb7nF5rJOy96B+RT0QxGM5NXR5bcL/N8jJ34KKSkhLf1g2 f/1q/kHFDSWxxeYS+bxJqJ+mXUB3Ctz5W2/RBVxYZbetLyI4J+z+niDfOsFA63VRV3qF Mmtg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:user-agent:references :message-id:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=x6zW8f9yYA4mv7dLsX94sPSPZBhGoN+c0dW4GM9eaqg=; b=av79sl0BfVi3t7pNZ6uwCka4w9BF/Qe3hbKBYkKVtKnjhcd/G11z3H8wvAt/L6sHfv q3JJFidxa1H+nUW46Vgt5G/Mo1J78oEZUtW8ZiSDMy+m9toirJfyqtstnI20Bmi1mFw/ 1uGEF/6OE8Ke8OSoCH221otfZtnxowZiEjFIlg99rcl/kNGIwpzIeRapafLSaBJhyUJJ uOf8g/ei+mbb2aXQJKGIe4eLNfH82M6PB/74//y3oPZhvW+wlVnDF/AZexddc4cfM3s7 l1kXKcnHvVm3+08UFA3XWcWn+19pWq6W4m68CP50SBb/jUJZfeSP3W2CCpx/p3uS/d8o h7BA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e1-v6si16478791plk.4.2018.10.27.15.11.47; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 15:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728720AbeJ1GwN (ORCPT + 99 others); Sun, 28 Oct 2018 02:52:13 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:57638 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727107AbeJ1GwN (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Oct 2018 02:52:13 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay1.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C30AFA8; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 22:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 00:09:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Jiri Kosina To: Tim.Bird@sony.com cc: viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, visionsofalice@redchan.it, linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org, rms@gnu.org, ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, mishi@linux.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, bruce@perens.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, esr@thyrsus.com, moglen@columbia.edu, bkuhn@sfconservancy.org, neil@brown.name, editor@lwn.net Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] The linux devs can rescind their license grant. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20181020134908.GA32218@kroah.com> <87y3ar80ac.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> <185b786a2bd6e8d527dca161dc42e4f1@redchan.it> <20181025081911.GB11343@kroah.com> <20181025193901.GD26403@thyrsus.com> <20181025204718.GB25649@thunk.org> <20181025214123.GA2448@thyrsus.com> <20181025230656.GJ32577@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <75eb4a46c8a2c1d4a927760fd1f2009d@redchan.it> <20181027073241.GM32577@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LSU 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, Tim.Bird@sony.com wrote: > Al, > > Can you please, even in the face of comments you find irritating, keep > your responses more civil? Calling someone a "wankstain" is > unprofessional Tim, to be completely honest, communicating anonymously doesn't really match my "this is highly professional" standards either, so I don't think we should be losing too much sleep over this particular e-mail exchange. CoC explicitly requires us to be reasonably nice to the human being on the other end of the wire, which I whole-heartedly believe is a very noble and nice goal. But you really have to know at least a little bit who's there on the other end. Otherwise failure to communicate might be sort of inevitable. -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs