Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:12:45 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:11:04 -0500 Received: from h24-65-193-28.cg.shawcable.net ([24.65.193.28]:27641 "EHLO webber.adilger.int") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:10:55 -0500 From: Andreas Dilger Message-Id: <200103261909.f2QJ95O19914@webber.adilger.int> Subject: Re: 64-bit block sizes on 32-bit systems In-Reply-To: <20010326190945.I31126@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> from Matthew Wilcox at "Mar 26, 2001 07:09:45 pm" To: Matthew Wilcox Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:09:04 -0700 (MST) CC: Andreas Dilger , LA Walsh , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Matthew Wilcox writes: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 10:47:13AM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote: > > What do you mean by problems 5 years down the road? The real issue is that > > this 32-bit block count limit affects composite devices like MD RAID and > > LVM today, not just individual disks. There have been several postings > > I have seen with people having a problem _today_ with a 2TB limit on > > devices. > > people who can afford 2TB of disc can afford to buy a 64-bit processor. Get real. If you buy (cheapest) 40GB IDE disks, I can have 2TB for U$9200 (not including controllers). In 1 year it will be half, etc. I expect I will start moving my DVD collection to disk storage in an ia32 system once price/GB falls by 50% from current levels. This is just for home use, let alone what large companies want to do. I am fully expecting hard drive price/GB to keep falling at its current rate. This whole "64-bit" fallacy has got to stop. First it was "anybody who needs files > 2GB should use a 64-bit CPU", wrong. Then it was "anybody who needs > 1GB RAM should use a 64-bit CPU", wrong. Now it is "anybody who needs > 2TB disk should use a 64-bit CPU", soon to be wrong. I don't think the millions of 32-bit systems will disappear overnight, or even in 10 years, yet we already have single IDE disks > 100GB, and in 2 or 3 years we will have single IDE disks > 1TB that people will want to use in their 32-bit systems. Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Dilger \ "If a man ate a pound of pasta and a pound of antipasto, \ would they cancel out, leaving him still hungry?" http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ -- Dogbert - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/