Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264144AbUAELQU (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:16:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264145AbUAELQU (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:16:20 -0500 Received: from twilight.ucw.cz ([81.30.235.3]:47254 "EHLO twilight.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264144AbUAELQS (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jan 2004 06:16:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:15:56 +0100 From: Vojtech Pavlik To: Greg KH Cc: Linus Torvalds , viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Daniel Jacobowitz , Andries Brouwer , Rob Love , rob@landley.net, Pascal Schmidt , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: udev and devfs - The final word Message-ID: <20040105111556.GA20272@ucw.cz> References: <20040104230104.A11439@pclin040.win.tue.nl> <20040105030737.GA29964@nevyn.them.org> <20040105035037.GD4176@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <20040105043830.GE4176@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <20040105074717.GB13651@kroah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040105074717.GB13651@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2326 Lines: 52 On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 11:47:17PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > But since you brought it up: do you actually have anything else that can > > open a remote IMAP file with a few thousand messages without taking ages > > for it, and that you don't have to mouse around with? I'd like a graphical > > interface for configuring stuff etc, but I sure as hell don't want to find > > some f*ing icon to save a few messages that I selected in-order to my > > "doit" queue or go to the next one, or pipe the thing to a shell-script, > > or any number of things that are my actual _job_. > > mutt can provide a path for a recovering pine addict. I did that a > number of years ago and have been quite happy since. I can't vouch for > its IMAP speeds (seems to be fast enough for me, as long as I don't try > to do a filter on a large IMAP folder), but the other tasks you do > (selecting, piping, etc.) work very well. Mutt with IMAP is rather bearable even on a GPRS connection (40kbps, 1sec latency). On a 100baseTX it's not distinguishable from local operation. One thing missing in mutt is a persistent message and message header cache - opening a folder can take a lot of time over a slow connection. But there is a patch at least for the message header cache persistence floating on the 'net somewhere. Another thing that bugs me often in mutt is its inability to service keystrokes while doing something else (like checking for new mail over IMAP with a slow link). It becomes unresponsive until that task is done. > I even think there's a mutt config file that duplicates all of the > default pine keystrokes just to make moving easier. > > The message threading was reason enough for me to switch, although I've > heard rumors that pine can handle that now. > > thanks, > > greg k-h > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- Vojtech Pavlik SuSE Labs, SuSE CR - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/