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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id r25-v6si28561840pgl.146.2018.10.31.14.18.14; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 14:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@linaro.org header.s=google header.b=cOV6Oyha; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=linaro.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729905AbeKAGRc (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 1 Nov 2018 02:17:32 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-f68.google.com ([209.85.167.68]:42157 "EHLO mail-lf1-f68.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729804AbeKAGRb (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Nov 2018 02:17:31 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-f68.google.com with SMTP id q6-v6so12749646lfh.9 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 14:17:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=JoWpNasRSfOSDfXh8IesYmIraUsuJUdAjdHww8DMGVo=; b=cOV6OyhaWEKajx6xQr7gNTPxwT8W262IJiHpSS9C7mIhh4mdNDZp+wf7qlN2AkyY6V beWu2KNwDHaJcsKuZfTB5JrZe3ijEK48tXesioZrcncqjrFpBGaLih6f25zAjDMQ7wLM vinC6/p66NS6peuicR6x/836Em2hmuGhbXQJc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=JoWpNasRSfOSDfXh8IesYmIraUsuJUdAjdHww8DMGVo=; b=V3BAab6h+5NEbU0+GBIb27qbzmUCs5k3qv7qekA+TyzbhYXcvaxH/2F4RSXHC1D6g7 obhtlbFBq6KfR3xf1HTfLgzzWDWVPEIDwe1k/tt9NFxJ0y4zJKno5KjEyNc6fG07xvu+ Plmc6dS/jZeJAh2PbUGeIx4ETuWSJcxL4vQnzUKUczcBBaYVRY7m3SSLEqBR2H8hW/hX MxkEsT5rfj0n6uWfVBDlvtJcc6VfSCsIur6NDwrbDFM8w5Me/F9JV2jjc7vGHc+bYmSw qkvBZp+1myS1HygS2Mu/Y8+vmKWOIpD9Pj8gdjbe2PY2O3pwk4xCV2qENm9ZEuGHHh3z /79A== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKCiAUZKwFAlge08cI2DYYD9gR9UtBeT2+XZQOga4Z1zXYyecC2 BfehDf1CpYdlQlpDIsZJWFMqde8Dx1h0b0xOz/RqCQ== X-Received: by 2002:a19:8d01:: with SMTP id p1mr2712230lfd.149.1541020662639; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 14:17:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181029094245.7886-1-manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org> In-Reply-To: From: Linus Walleij Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 22:17:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] Standardize onboard LED support for 96Boards To: Michal Simek Cc: Manivannan Sadhasivam , Rob Herring , Daniel Thompson , =?UTF-8?Q?Heiko_St=C3=BCbner?= , "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" , linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, "open list:ARM/QUALCOMM SUPPORT" , Xu Wei , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..." , Nicolas Dechesne , Koen Kooi , Linux ARM , Pavel Machek , Andy Gross , Amit Kucheria , ezequiel@collabora.com, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 4:47 PM Michal Simek wrote: > No doubt about it that this is good. If this is there from day 1 all will be good. > I am just saying that we are all the time > saying that we shouldn't break userspace. Right now if there is single application > which uses existing names we are breaking it. Yeah that's the problem, the approach is usually that if a tree falls in the forest and noone is there to hear it, then it doesn't make a sound. But we can't assume someone is there as the safe default either. I'd say apply it and see what happens, people are supposed to test. Yours, Linus Walleij