Received: by 2002:ac0:98c7:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id g7-v6csp672727imd; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 03:50:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5ey7AeCMM0xvwBFlJZ3iwGnNrED2p2pIC7XBqoLuFE8szyjO4HtttaDvkiYCJqLqlrG+7/N X-Received: by 2002:a62:ca4d:: with SMTP id n74-v6mr7116536pfg.10.1541069420162; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 03:50:20 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1541069420; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=CUMPh0cyzMqG5funXFc30SP/EdZ56yDzSLXNiUqdrKwEGY9JVM03K5nOCbwdqKIvuc bRa4nkHv9RHWHbykKa6JjtACF4vJ49+l834e3mydAzO4ed8X3vHgJr9nc5pIZbhf3hF2 pnjXb6JbxLDB2fJ8ug1bTPmrVqmZ3dVj/iiOeJKXDPXVQA0T665MgSqUzXLhcl77+qdM hnCMuHRFxTcBtWjir3qkwZW8djIhNvywCsoopzOsjJTjPbE8Kgu0zVpuwthuAtLyAdGA zslweNGIV6CQjGfRPlz9XNmsb5jol5emzpPp06Z6ZD/PiTRY4mS1PyqyG6r2BHwuFNmv FqSw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :references:in-reply-to:message-id:date:subject:cc:to:from; bh=yPNRrUrpBFjyy4TCddr6Y7OqUqdSACdo7pANx622HpU=; b=GF5DCETSiUsEas/PfKPJFu4HiBLJ9hqbj18nBPusijJ/YgPrqJsFq1iWEOf2mLRdc6 WbR8C3lzvx/vIT1j/zYHTHyJNO15iQIe+FWKL0u5ilpHzu4WOR1VaW7TyCRyjlx8dyy2 WDCKnQ5nHqjH1Q19d5h7Zqxli6DXexrvqZi27sKjhm/2C9Vbmeos3f4u13OallUK4N6v VFTEC+VIl3EsI72iXeHm7g4y0iYiYnRHhlBqyhP6t8JQPQkkpq2JAUIY4jw3QEvBnDO5 m8/6I88tvQrmO1ZQAJD3JJvbAEjjfpJru7ta78ekSQsAXA2v0x8kBLB/m5xwDQAkNPaL hCMw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 10-v6si22144426pgk.480.2018.11.01.03.50.06; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 03:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728288AbeKATvs (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 1 Nov 2018 15:51:48 -0400 Received: from gloria.sntech.de ([185.11.138.130]:38996 "EHLO gloria.sntech.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727008AbeKATvs (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Nov 2018 15:51:48 -0400 Received: from ip5f5a86be.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([95.90.134.190] helo=diego.localnet) by gloria.sntech.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gIAXF-0000oD-Gl; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 11:49:09 +0100 From: Heiko =?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=FCbner?= To: Linus Walleij Cc: Michal Simek , Manivannan Sadhasivam , Rob Herring , Daniel Thompson , "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" , linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, "open list:ARM/QUALCOMM SUPPORT" , Xu Wei , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..." , Nicolas Dechesne , Koen Kooi , Linux ARM , Pavel Machek , Andy Gross , Amit Kucheria , ezequiel@collabora.com, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] Standardize onboard LED support for 96Boards Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2018 11:49:08 +0100 Message-ID: <1590147.nMxYQPWRVN@diego> In-Reply-To: References: <20181029094245.7886-1-manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Am Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2018, 22:17:29 CET schrieb Linus Walleij: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 4:47 PM Michal Simek wrote: > > No doubt about it that this is good. If this is there from day 1 all will > > be good. I am just saying that we are all the time > > saying that we shouldn't break userspace. Right now if there is single > > application which uses existing names we are breaking it. > > Yeah that's the problem, the approach is usually that if a tree falls > in the forest and noone is there to hear it, then it doesn't make a > sound. > > But we can't assume someone is there as the safe default either. > > I'd say apply it and see what happens, people are supposed to test. At least for the Rockchip boards I'm somewhat confident, that they should be new enough to not have anybody building cludges - especially as I think LEDs might not be the most interesting device on such boards :-) . So while I can apply the Rockchip patches, I'm still hoping for some kind of consensus beforehand, least we roll it back after the fact ;-) . Heiko