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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id n84-v6si34955423pfg.127.2018.11.02.09.52.26; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 09:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728110AbeKCB7g (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 2 Nov 2018 21:59:36 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:59038 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727946AbeKCB7g (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Nov 2018 21:59:36 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4EB5AE11; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 16:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 17:51:47 +0100 From: Michal Hocko To: Roman Gushchin Cc: Dexuan Cui , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Kernel Team , Shakeel Butt , Johannes Weiner , Tejun Heo , Rik van Riel , Konstantin Khlebnikov , Matthew Wilcox , "Stable@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: Will the recent memory leak fixes be backported to longterm kernels? Message-ID: <20181102165147.GG28039@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <20181102005816.GA10297@tower.DHCP.thefacebook.com> <20181102073009.GP23921@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181102154844.GA17619@tower.DHCP.thefacebook.com> <20181102161314.GF28039@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181102162237.GB17619@tower.DHCP.thefacebook.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181102162237.GB17619@tower.DHCP.thefacebook.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri 02-11-18 16:22:41, Roman Gushchin wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 05:13:14PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > > On Fri 02-11-18 15:48:57, Roman Gushchin wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 09:03:55AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > > > > On Fri 02-11-18 02:45:42, Dexuan Cui wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > I totally agree. I'm now just wondering if there is any temporary workaround, > > > > > even if that means we have to run the kernel with some features disabled or > > > > > with a suboptimal performance? > > > > > > > > One way would be to disable kmem accounting (cgroup.memory=nokmem kernel > > > > option). That would reduce the memory isolation because quite a lot of > > > > memory will not be accounted for but the primary source of in-flight and > > > > hard to reclaim memory will be gone. > > > > > > In my experience disabling the kmem accounting doesn't really solve the issue > > > (without patches), but can lower the rate of the leak. > > > > This is unexpected. 90cbc2508827e was introduced to address offline > > memcgs to be reclaim even when they are small. But maybe you mean that > > we still leak in an absence of the memory pressure. Or what does prevent > > memcg from going down? > > There are 3 independent issues which are contributing to this leak: > 1) Kernel stack accounting weirdness: processes can reuse stack accounted to > different cgroups. So basically any running process can take a reference to any > cgroup. yes, but kmem accounting should rule that out, right? If not then this is a clear bug and easy to backport because that would mean to add a missing memcg_kmem_enabled check. > 2) We do forget to scan the last page in the LRU list. So if we ended up with > 1-page long LRU, it can stay there basically forever. Why /* * If the cgroup's already been deleted, make sure to * scrape out the remaining cache. */ if (!scan && !mem_cgroup_online(memcg)) scan = min(size, SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX); in get_scan_count doesn't work for that case? > 3) We don't apply enough pressure on slab objects. again kmem accounting disabled should make this moot > Because one reference is enough to keep the entire memcg structure in place, > we really have to close all three to eliminate the leak. Disabling kmem > accounting mitigates only the last one. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs