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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b137-v6si26698207pfb.144.2018.11.02.10.03.18; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 10:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=default header.b=IH5lJKzE; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728037AbeKCCJK (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 2 Nov 2018 22:09:10 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:58550 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727339AbeKCCJK (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Nov 2018 22:09:10 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f51.google.com (mail-wm1-f51.google.com [209.85.128.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C4E920866 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 17:01:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1541178081; bh=S/RgsQzwWHSrtj65TB+IqaGqcj5OTVXTmwytmcwW24g=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=IH5lJKzExP6sbQNnal062jDT2zyJQ4HEm4n29919/5tBxK02+TEqHvB1C6mQp366u fZ8lF4PGFXIxbwMz1JlmnzO3w58L2EhA+R1B5xHZGQCt+AzSeG2RVayJQenSQWZERP guXnc5/f1boxf97abc4UB4aXpKWztJVhXuUJOxQQ= Received: by mail-wm1-f51.google.com with SMTP id f19-v6so1634913wmb.0 for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 10:01:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKN26H8bOl5D7/9S9eAtK6vLBA4m/u3Q+JYHJMNhLKOaXIXh9bx dDhWa8+DnyA+m/kqs7cIOrBT1p8eyJ8+0f58g/typA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:d4b:: with SMTP id 72-v6mr67012wmn.102.1541178079853; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 10:01:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181101185225.GC5150@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20181101193107.GE5150@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20181102163034.GB7393@linux.intel.com> <7e14ee0e-ce15-1e88-7ae9-4d0f40cb3d84@fortanix.com> <20181102165204.GC7393@linux.intel.com> In-Reply-To: From: Andy Lutomirski Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 10:01:08 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: RFC: userspace exception fixups To: Jethro Beekman Cc: "Christopherson, Sean J" , Andrew Lutomirski , Linus Torvalds , Rich Felker , Jann Horn , Dave Hansen , Jarkko Sakkinen , Florian Weimer , Linux API , X86 ML , linux-arch , LKML , Peter Zijlstra , nhorman@redhat.com, npmccallum@redhat.com, "Ayoun, Serge" , shay.katz-zamir@intel.com, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org, Andy Shevchenko , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Borislav Petkov , "Carlos O'Donell" , adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:56 AM Jethro Beekman wrote: > > On 2018-11-02 09:52, Sean Christopherson wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 04:37:10PM +0000, Jethro Beekman wrote: > >> On 2018-11-02 09:30, Sean Christopherson wrote: > >>> ... The intended convention for EENTER is to have an ENCLU at the AEX target ... > >>> > >>> ... to further enforce that the AEX target needs to be ENCLU. > >> > >> Some SGX runtimes may want to use a different AEX target. > > > > To what end? Userspace gets no indication as to why the AEX occurred. > > And if exceptions are getting transfered to userspace the trampoline > > would effectively be handling only INTR, NMI, #MC and EPC #PF. > > > > Various reasons... > > Userspace may have established an exception handling convention with the > enclave (by setting TCS.NSSA > 1) and may want to call EENTER instead of > ERESUME. > Ugh, I sincerely hope that a future ISA extension lets the kernel return directly back to enclave mode so that AEX events become entirely invisible to user code. It would be nice if user developers didn't start depending on the rather odd AEX semantics right now. But I don't think the kernel can sanely do much about it.