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I quickly synthesize the comments and >>> list them as below. >>> 1. The kernel image shall include all vendor-specific code. >> >> I fundamentally disagree with this… and think it should be the contrary. >> >> 1. The kernel shall support no vendor specific instructions whatsoever, >> period. > > I think what was meant above is > > 1. If a vendor extension requires kernel support, that support > must be able to be built into a kernel image without breaking support > for CPUs that do not have that extension, to allow building a single > kernel image that works on all CPUs. Yes. I don't want anything that won't compile with upstream GCC, but I also don't want to have a Kconfig that says "make the kernel only work on $VENDOR's implementation". I think this can be achieved, at least for the cases I've seen so far.