Received: by 2002:ad5:474a:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id i10csp272851imu; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 17:07:11 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5cRhmEB9Temp2RZNyy1PiVxLhuaX1X7yWxg/7Im3trukTpu8YaxObi+G42GMYBfaU7wqW7/ X-Received: by 2002:a63:2d82:: with SMTP id t124mr2152836pgt.260.1541639231281; Wed, 07 Nov 2018 17:07:11 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1541639231; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=lw+n4p0vMBKRnOD+pMT7Iuwm2zUSjdihgk4rD9ufBqw6h8pZWY1lSwnLn8DSlDSgDw 0GKFGftI9g8wh6F3GPIavqtAJPU1YN7wqxiaTbI0OqEejrVBMHo1AlkJABBMscHwadLM ZnCqm171qLJI0fRUiDvQR86qTlfZkDshkk4kVkHpKglF0ZQGYt4kOGkgqhCHigNgmiu2 mWEDdgWDudZZARRqwMIrdNaZDPE51QFrHAYj5a0q3iMO6SB46/k68ldviBkEtJxEKmsy LphfwUB6WtFhA2qw/JYJBaPJzYPaZA2rd6xalwgj33N1onjvr+dQbVAhYq85bJJXu657 DfoQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:content-disposition :mime-version:message-id:subject:to:from:date; bh=Eln0ZU949nXMRtCzymTaZ0m+prkrCnGvZPqJcoejGQI=; b=H8bS1jJ0Er/8LOmKxoA01UeHRX09y5KNeMSb9Pyj+uvBP4+poCvxu945tlTt+QsWTx TDbnGDkQMFmgSM7MlhDUKcgzHpp0sDIjx+tE33UN/awO48xlAZKWcEmO2SrL+nsxmdbF ciZIHfAmh3kUiKOP8N0CHaB8zY+Yqsuw3Xk9VWkj3WHTRSYOh1Ja0PWqpAR3Wbqthxuw geDGR2oiMHLBJinbEx/5rl4L7Xm/NOxj+GzNDBOm0OTU2Y3uqMbIorVxGaqWJM4WiKPz tdsVnP35GqUicFYybAkwxOoxRtqbF5kARGEM6fo1V+KXcsSw5n2o0VyMQldL4n/1DZm+ wWoQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id o27si2224971pgl.53.2018.11.07.17.06.40; Wed, 07 Nov 2018 17:07:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728256AbeKHKjE (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 8 Nov 2018 05:39:04 -0500 Received: from shells.gnugeneration.com ([66.240.222.126]:42746 "EHLO shells.gnugeneration.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727724AbeKHKjE (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Nov 2018 05:39:04 -0500 Received: by shells.gnugeneration.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CE1DB1A40335; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 17:06:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 17:06:08 -0800 From: Vito Caputo To: linux-kernel Subject: [QUESTION] Microsoft, WSL, and the Linux trademark Message-ID: <20181108010608.mlcjfwwsdwt2nee5@shells.gnugeneration.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In reading the news today, I stumbled across an article talking about a $20 "linux-based distro" app for Windows 10. This is just a bundled userspace for WSL, there is no actual Linux in this thing, yet the trademarked Linux name is used throughout. Did Microsoft license the trademark or something? Did I miss a memo? Does their joining the Linux Foundation as a Platinum member two years ago include such use of the trademark? I'm confused by what seems to be total silence about what _appears_ to be an obvious large-scale trademark abuse in everything WSL-related. Could somebody informed please shed some light on this? The situation strikes me as harmful to the kernel as the majority of folks being introduced to "Linux" this way will be tricked into thinking they're using/supporting Linux. Has the Linux Foundation deliberately turned a blind eye to this trademark abuse because MS is throwing money at them or is it a formal licensing situation? Do we, the community, even have any right to know what's going on? Cheers, Vito Caputo