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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f38si7693385pgf.206.2018.11.09.14.43.54; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 14:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@google.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dS3RTySV; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=google.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728376AbeKJIY7 (ORCPT + 99 others); Sat, 10 Nov 2018 03:24:59 -0500 Received: from mail-ua1-f51.google.com ([209.85.222.51]:36798 "EHLO mail-ua1-f51.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728148AbeKJIY7 (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Nov 2018 03:24:59 -0500 Received: by mail-ua1-f51.google.com with SMTP id j3so1197628uap.3 for ; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 14:42:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vLCeayyhQPEp7DhR4w0Soy9DxKx4sBpZFu+34SRL47I=; b=dS3RTySVZTs/k+NRRS/Zg+ZlOEpkMFGCVZu793BXfK267z8bMl7g+SY8RohjpPO7vE +yM634keTiuE7Hop82eRD7NNRtodgvEP0QXGKegoC6AHAMRQvFS3FTw2kv3ddRiOgE7v hU61XXrLaf1yXoxDAVEYLUxqUCLGJ231U2NFpwT5ehiIw3Z+SfC0WSsRYdo+iz0Os29d /2Dk4f2JkPom1L0Qd8xjeqtOFrkCFbT/sR5JqSc9DlVg5rHfsdbXFBSltHD36WcWyZ9D a4+vJ1F2veJLbZE6n9YEMR2mi1zUvfqvsWJdd0ik4r581kfqkhfPX6u7QXiwKqVYILGh g+dg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vLCeayyhQPEp7DhR4w0Soy9DxKx4sBpZFu+34SRL47I=; b=ctuv5z7cUIuWJ2UOypohvgMlbWwj5aISrFpB4ZndUrb7OZCCt8gbkb8oZZPorCxhvp d/1kN8N9vebRipzK+29ZT35lM8pyoMy7rMMXLjJ1HjxJT7xKsj4orwTy09UfjNunk2Ur dPCP5XsIySmnON2PQTZ5OlTjuVHBgtlLYqoSZivY8DslDs1x9K1XRiQxvUbzgQaoc7hL n5wkcxbIZTd9aZVH25kvbtNEBlXfH1QfVWRiGtqI4gd8vgYR+3Q8JQB/fB3an8YJlIl0 /T7s9LIUdYP24KchJLwOlRCBGo1pGaw65AI4PdVH/YqdjKQyy8RX9Qv9KY9xmmduFu+k bZzA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLdQr8V7+KwqZHoX/eW1xdOiPSkjhrv1z+z56kXGzNlcA1KWjqp FyC4jZ043Q6lihjdQcTT9oYjaYbk1FO+avCwrtUoDw== X-Received: by 2002:ab0:45e2:: with SMTP id u89mr4859774uau.13.1541803338992; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 14:42:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a67:f48d:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 14:42:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20181108041537.39694-1-joel@joelfernandes.org> From: Daniel Colascione Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 14:42:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 resend 1/2] mm: Add an F_SEAL_FUTURE_WRITE seal to memfd To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Jann Horn , Joel Fernandes , kernel list , John Reck , John Stultz , Todd Kjos , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Christoph Hellwig , Al Viro , Andrew Morton , Bruce Fields , Jeff Layton , Khalid Aziz , Lei.Yang@windriver.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, Linux-MM , marcandre.lureau@redhat.com, Mike Kravetz , Minchan Kim , Shuah Khan , valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu, Hugh Dickins , Linux API Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote= : >> Another, more general fix might be to prevent /proc/pid/fd/N opens >> from "upgrading" access modes. But that'd be a bigger ABI break. > > I think we should fix that, too. I consider it a bug fix, not an ABI bre= ak, personally. Someone, somewhere is probably relying on it though, and that means that we probably can't change it unless it's actually causing problems. spacebar heating >>> That aside: I wonder whether a better API would be something that >>> allows you to create a new readonly file descriptor, instead of >>> fiddling with the writability of an existing fd. >> >> That doesn't work, unfortunately. The ashmem API we're replacing with >> memfd requires file descriptor continuity. I also looked into opening >> a new FD and dup2(2)ing atop the old one, but this approach doesn't >> work in the case that the old FD has already leaked to some other >> context (e.g., another dup, SCM_RIGHTS). See >> https://developer.android.com/ndk/reference/group/memory. We can't >> break ASharedMemory_setProt. > > > Hmm. If we fix the general reopen bug, a way to drop write access from a= n existing struct file would do what Android needs, right? I don=E2=80=99t= know if there are general VFS issues with that. I also proposed that. :-) Maybe it'd work best as a special case of the perennial revoke(2) that people keep proposing. You'd be able to selectively revoke all access or just write access.