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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] stackleak: Disable ftrace for stackleak.c
To:     Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
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Hello Steven and Masami,

Thanks for your comments.

On 12.11.2018 5:50, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> Hi Alexander and Steve,
> 
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 20:53:51 -0500
> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:19:45 +0300
>> Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11.11.2018 2:30, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 01:05:30 +0300
>>>> Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> The stackleak_erase() function is called on the trampoline stack at the
>>>>> end of syscall. This stack is not big enough for ftrace operations,
>>>>> e.g. it can be overflowed if we enable kprobe_events for stackleak_erase().  
>>>>
>>>> Is the issue with kprobes or with function tracing? Because this stops
>>>> function tracing which I only want disabled if function tracing itself
>>>> is an issue, not for other things that may use the function tracing
>>>> infrastructure.  
>>>
>>> Hello Steven,
>>>
>>> I believe that stackleak erasing is not compatible with function tracing itself.
>>> That's what the kernel testing robot has hit:
>>> https://www.openwall.com/lists/kernel-hardening/2018/11/09/1
>>>
>>> I used kprobe_events just to reproduce the problem:
>>> https://www.openwall.com/lists/kernel-hardening/2018/11/09/4
>>
>> Have you tried adding a "notrace" to stackleak_erase()?
>>
>> Not tracing the entire file is a bit of overkill. There's no reason
>> ftrace can't trace stack_erasing_sysctl() or perhaps even
>> stackleak_track_stack() as that may be very interesting to trace.

Yes, thank you. It's much better.

> I think it is not enough for stopping kprobes. If you want to stop the kprobes
> (int3 version) on stackleak_erase(), you should use NOKPROBE_SYMBOL(stackleak_erase),
> since kprobes can work without ftrace. 

Thanks!

I learned how to use kprobes without ftrace and managed to reproduce the problem
as well (I modified kprobe_example.c and kretprobe_example.c). NOKPROBE_SYMBOL()
allowed to avoid it.

I'll send the patch soon.

By the way, are there any other tracing/instrumentation mechanisms that should
be disabled?

Best regards,
Alexander