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[174.227.144.161]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z8sm5073239qto.45.2018.11.13.07.15.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 07:15:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Official Linux system wrapper library? To: Joseph Myers , Florian Weimer Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" , Willy Tarreau , Daniel Colascione , linux-kernel , Joel Fernandes , Linux API , Vlastimil Babka , "libc-alpha@sourceware.org" References: <20181111081725.GA30248@1wt.eu> <3664a508-ca74-4ff0-39a6-34543194a24e@gmail.com> <878t1zx4gj.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> From: Carlos O'Donell Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Organization: Red Hat Message-ID: <85ce01c3-0704-b915-e591-437a051d371c@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:15:39 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 11/12/18 11:43 AM, Joseph Myers wrote: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2018, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> People may have disappeared from glibc development who have objected to >> gettid. I thought this was the case with strlcpy/strlcat, but it was >> not. > > Well, I know of two main people who were objecting to the notion of adding > bindings for all non-obsolescent syscalls, Linux-specific if not suitable > for adding to the OS-independent GNU API, and neither seems to have posted > in the past year. > >> At present, it takes one semi-active glibc contributor to block addition >> of a system call. The process to override a sustained objection has >> never been used successfully, and it is a lot of work to get it even >> started. > > We don't have such a process. (I've suggested, e.g. in conversation with > Carlos at the Cauldron, that we should have something involving a > supermajority vote of the GNU maintainers for glibc in cases where we're > unable to reach a consensus in the community as a whole.) ... and I need a good excuse to propose such a process :-) -- Cheers, Carlos.