Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264883AbUAJEY1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jan 2004 23:24:27 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264887AbUAJEY1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jan 2004 23:24:27 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com ([65.24.5.136]:45265 "EHLO ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264883AbUAJEYZ convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jan 2004 23:24:25 -0500 From: Rob Couto Reply-To: rpc@cafe4111.org Organization: Cafe 41:11 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Make the init-process look like the StarWars Credits Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:07:13 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <3FFEDD1D.7000003@ippensen.de> <200401091218.12671.rpc@cafe4111.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401092107.13588.rpc@cafe4111.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2305 Lines: 48 On Friday 09 January 2004 13:39, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: > I suppose it would be possible to use 3D features of the graphics > chip. It would require a rather massive hacking in the fb driver, of > course. massive hacking? hehe, yea. geniuses, please stop me when I stop making sense... AFAICT, that would be both excellent and terrible at the same time. using hw accel makes the process lighter on CPU and looks great but ridiculously intense on the coder... i mean, who could you recruit to take X11 vid drivers and mutate them into kernel code? you'd need 3D code that belongs to Mesa, DRI code that belongs to whatever X module and the matching kernel module, possibly agpgart, and so on. by the time it's 3D, you aren't using the framebuffer code, you've taken the GUI and moved it into the kernel --- hello Win32. That's if you did it smart and made it modular enough to have other purposes, i.e. X11 overdrive... then X needs to know about it, or at least the DRI module involved, and then it's either they trip over one another or X gets cut down to just the libs and network activity. then maybe the kernel begins with X which starts your xterms fullscreen on vt1-6. all the time it's faster and loads sooner. and along with it, you get the legendary stability of a MS slop'erating system. to have that much for one brief piece of eyecandy is a little silly. and when the booting's done, is vt1 still zooming out into space? will I be able to see the top few lines of 'top'? the nice thing about fbmngplay is that it can easily be told to stop ;) why not simply make the console a file or fifo, then "tail -f | text_render_app -d /dev/fb0" as soon as init can fire it off? there seems to be a mailing list at bootsplash.org, maybe we should be there instead. http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bootsplash-discussion -- Rob Couto rpc@cafe4111.org Rules for computing success: 1) Attitude is no substitute for competence. 2) Ease of use is no substitute for power. 3) Safety matters; use a static-free hammer. -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/