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Wysocki" , Jacob jun Pan , Andreas Noever , Michael Jamet , Yehezkel Bernat , Christian Kellner , Mario.Limonciello@dell.com, Anthony Wong , linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] PCI / ACPI: Identify external PCI devices Message-ID: <20181115113737.GW2500@lahna.fi.intel.com> References: <20181112160628.86620-1-mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com> <20181112160628.86620-2-mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com> <20181112180203.lx72gjfplb6xlur7@wunner.de> <20181113105636.GB11202@e107981-ln.cambridge.arm.com> <20181113112700.GT2500@lahna.fi.intel.com> <20181113114527.GA12821@e107981-ln.cambridge.arm.com> <20181115102239.GU2500@lahna.fi.intel.com> <20181115111356.GA599@e107981-ln.cambridge.arm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181115111356.GA599@e107981-ln.cambridge.arm.com> Organization: Intel Finland Oy - BIC 0357606-4 - Westendinkatu 7, 02160 Espoo User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:13:56AM +0000, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote: > I have strong objections to the way these bindings have been forced upon > everybody; if that's the way *generic* ACPI bindings are specified I > wonder why there still exists an ACPI specification and related working > group. > > I personally (but that's Bjorn and Rafael choice) think that this is > not a change that belongs in PCI core, ACPI bindings are ill-defined > and device tree bindings are non-existing. Any idea where should I put it then? These systems are already out there and we need to support them one way or another. > At the very least Microsoft should be asked to publish and discuss > these bindings within the ACPI and UEFI forums. These bindings are public, see here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/pci/dsd-for-pcie-root-ports However, they are not part of the ACPI spec as you say.