Received: by 2002:ad5:474a:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id i10csp2103467imu; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:02:03 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dD/pIdVpYaygW7tuGTBYBpKwetX9w+Tp37jLyJvWpvuAWB78n+gCuBinQ2OOId+JVRUgZr X-Received: by 2002:a63:f811:: with SMTP id n17mr18529762pgh.23.1542585723393; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:02:03 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1542585723; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=mYbymb1qLe4/n2+ghsHXtEwBH3KZz2DsJB20gs0+7hxDxbQguFqYW5F97B6e0UcWng lLeZD3JlfcCdGgEsDCExQ2y7LiVT6ctTnwytgmIKQd09REG6IAeoMG9mHx0+HULz3Q8n 0YzdrQmDwY09ApoMEbnDHeNcP/idnfwee7pw/WqxJC4yoljGm0yGi/GqNSXdH51uLlsL rlWG4YHPAIkwJncX93KZAb5XCKUkM2arltlx8XWGNo0Ory/N3kJViwdawnxV+DnppA+Q 0beHKZD36thDuD+LgOlAukWsYTNZ6A41j7pWelCqTLoLds4/2SKnkYVCU4ixy/XZPVNs ee4w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:user-agent:message-id :in-reply-to:date:references:subject:cc:to:from; bh=MS7XQo1pgPpQLLK8tdl5WPe0YeoDmqa4XZmWSm/5Iw8=; b=KBuVFwST3+XNUW8KfDYKwjRaZWKHchNMRA2Z/j+ugmsxtNQWnIYejMtz5vPqROYDE2 JkEg94Tbx3gXD/SriP0zs0JmKPVH6NOgAGSsXVYdyXMSfLmOuHp29MHHtrE9bn+8TkmN tIVvBjhrt3dwGVntLZ40Jq83GqhjlK6QZpyS6zPH37XB+RIjozsD7dr15v+8t8I0nW+4 9CV3rENb58HveYBUlBQN1vupdl6WhLspdqnnvxefqYF2D+kApxHEaCQ11xBmoGsHyXq6 ZCe9hdUEHYyrn40OrLvFKMeL2ngmNXaTyhVvxoGHSP5rjKJ74U9hMT69TBUnS7SmqSCp S9Vg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w32si37833566pga.337.2018.11.18.16.01.48; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728143AbeKSKRz (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 19 Nov 2018 05:17:55 -0500 Received: from mga04.intel.com ([192.55.52.120]:11494 "EHLO mga04.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726950AbeKSKRz (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Nov 2018 05:17:55 -0500 X-Amp-Result: SKIPPED(no attachment in message) X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False Received: from fmsmga008.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.58]) by fmsmga104.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 18 Nov 2018 15:56:10 -0800 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.56,250,1539673200"; d="scan'208";a="87445097" Received: from tassilo.jf.intel.com (HELO tassilo.localdomain) ([10.7.201.126]) by fmsmga008.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 18 Nov 2018 15:56:10 -0800 Received: by tassilo.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8B799301015; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:56:10 -0800 (PST) From: Andi Kleen To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Jiri Kosina , Thomas Gleixner , Peter Zijlstra , Josh Poimboeuf , Andrea Arcangeli , David Woodhouse , Tim Chen , Casey Schaufler , Linux List Kernel Mailing , "the arch\/x86 maintainers" , stable@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: STIBP by default.. Revert? References: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:56:10 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Linus Torvalds's message of "Sun, 18 Nov 2018 14:36:09 -0800") Message-ID: <871s7i0wkl.fsf@linux.intel.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Linus Torvalds writes: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 2:17 PM Jiri Kosina wrote: >> Which gets us back to Tim's fixup patch. Do you still prefer the revert, >> given the existence of that? > > I don't think the code needs to be reverted, but the *behavior* of > just unconditionally enabling STIBP needs to be reverted. Actually I think it should be reverted. Yes of course opt-in is needed. But also when you opt-in it doesn't make sense to set STIBP when the sibling is running the same security context, which is actually a common case. So to even use it properly you would need some scheduler support to detect these cases and only enable it then with opt-in. These patches didn't even try to tackle this problem. -Andi