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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g7-v6si8110348plp.130.2018.11.19.10.26.08; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 10:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=default header.b=wm5rkxyt; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730253AbeKTEs4 (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:48:56 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:51388 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1730128AbeKTEs4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:48:56 -0500 Received: from [10.80.45.159] (unknown [71.69.156.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2E660206BA; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 18:24:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1542651853; bh=yV1rVaw923ctrstMXbWZZ47ohaFBqDXftmwGiCTdyAs=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=wm5rkxytxQVbBIHJa7Hu/UEjjET/nRxEbTBWTA39BWYCCvCO6ejODh5CaQX5T6GrQ 2ic5zZvoxLMYdHOtCFsE+HXbvb2L7bALfYbFB4++z8+1Zfl3zDbCIYKcjD8GurGM6Y UEVD4rxgq9KuJl055h532kSsM/W+FOWy3DY0gQGI= Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] PCI/AER: Consistently use _OSC to determine who owns AER To: Keith Busch Cc: Tyler Baicar , mr.nuke.me@gmail.com, austin_bolen@dell.com, alex_gagniuc@dellteam.com, Shyam_Iyer@dell.com, lukas@wunner.de, bhelgaas@google.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net, lenb@kernel.org, ruscur@russell.cc, sbobroff@linux.ibm.com, oohall@gmail.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org References: <20181115231605.24352-1-mr.nuke.me@gmail.com> <20181119165318.GB26595@localhost.localdomain> <74f2c527-0890-5e14-5e2d-48934a42dae6@kernel.org> <20181119174127.GE26595@localhost.localdomain> <20181119181051.GA26707@localhost.localdomain> From: Sinan Kaya Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 13:24:11 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181119181051.GA26707@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 11/19/2018 1:10 PM, Keith Busch wrote: >> We can't really turn off firmware first in the kernel without asking help >> from the firmware. > The _OSC method this patch utilizes is the ACPI spec defined way for > the kernel to wrest control from firmware. BIOS specific menu settings > shouldn't be our only recourse when we have a spec authority defining > generic OS interfaces to accomplish the same thing. > > Unless there is a disagreement on the _OSC interpreation, we'd have to > accept that platforms breaking from this patch are non-compliant. > It depends on which spec you look :) UEFI HEST table specification also claims that it should be the ultimate table for when PCI firmware-first should be disabled/enabled. I think somebody needs to fix these. I saw an email from Harb Abdulhamid sent to aswg this morning. That's why I suggested circulating this idea in UEFI forums first. Let's see what everybody thinks. We can go from there.