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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id u8-v6si45858473plh.188.2018.11.20.15.00.58; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=default header.b=Gc7gNaqj; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726318AbeKUJAR (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:00:17 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:53490 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725913AbeKUJAQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:00:16 -0500 Received: from [10.80.45.159] (unknown [71.69.156.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A9BF52147A; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:28:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1542752932; bh=amiAQZivvLb+0E+qyHlyj7WCS/LfqxES6RuASc64Ck8=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Gc7gNaqjdr1jq9VQyC9TxfnZ5sh9BF2XHE4/DyL1I5SWXvyuordTu+vC9kvHIsX0z weO795ZUmkOqG7w3y8yHonZprPjrFc5Kk55HPZb7VeE5WWiekyZOUKVPAHl5WcpPEm ghpkvrqWo+yKkSii6t02aSXmCqu/3XJuLvgbp/Xw= Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] PCI/AER: Consistently use _OSC to determine who owns AER To: Keith Busch Cc: Alex_Gagniuc@Dellteam.com, mr.nuke.me@gmail.com, baicar.tyler@gmail.com, Austin.Bolen@dell.com, Shyam.Iyer@dell.com, lukas@wunner.de, bhelgaas@google.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net, lenb@kernel.org, ruscur@russell.cc, sbobroff@linux.ibm.com, oohall@gmail.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org References: <20181119181051.GA26707@localhost.localdomain> <3f923367-2cc1-c0d6-bca6-bf9a03d1b9ca@gmail.com> <84013a8a-287d-d700-6710-91cc35f507c8@kernel.org> <9c9531c7efb846438f03f744b9afc466@ausx13mps321.AMER.DELL.COM> <3b18a9fa-7bdd-0fb4-285d-4efb454be50a@kernel.org> <314e59da-48e1-545b-3ee9-6e5056b90fd9@kernel.org> <20181120214243.GG26707@localhost.localdomain> From: Sinan Kaya Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:28:49 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181120214243.GG26707@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 11/20/2018 4:42 PM, Keith Busch wrote: > How does that work? If the OS takes control, it sets up MSIs that FW don't > react to, and disables system errors through PCIe Root Control. Aren't > those sys errs the mechanism FW knows it has something to do, which > means the OS can effectively fence it off? I think this is all implementation detail and doesn't necessarily apply to all firmware-first implementation flavors. Assumptions are: 1. both FW and OS are listening to MSI interrupts 2. FW monitors the system errors Some FF implementation could route the AER interrupt to a higher privilege level. Some other implementation could use INTx or a side-band channel interrupt for firmware-interrupt too. I have seen all 3 except MSI :) and also firmware never monitored the system error bits. I was curious if anybody ever used those legacy bits. Now, I know someone is using it.