Received: by 2002:ad5:474a:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id i10csp578317imu; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 02:08:11 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dSqsfZIvg9lyypHj2cIjYY+oKdgBBtt+YBjyBsn4qZPEpVqiqTCuLYTGhLQxeeK5ZYlCgk X-Received: by 2002:a62:29c4:: with SMTP id p187-v6mr10741583pfp.62.1542881291228; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 02:08:11 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1542881291; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=W3KdQ8lLyBjmxZ17bPt1RSqcThgXoufb8/RhQaz9A3dbljMmGFN5bMN+SkTwleCF2h +Ll4euQvCO0bsWbW5jHjjq7OiBywbm1w1t9DJ6Rsl+wNyGnApv1b49+Jfz1ZBgHxFYyy MkeaztB5Jv9Jmr8uknVA92OzE3eg16E5++4i6AkHfWnpNrrg27vc+N4e/nHK082mi6Cw ajGb2SRMbBxgUQTWWRT9rGCqGUnWyz75N+nTMkFLvGaIfLV3cBGtv9W2lIkO/a9RGJs7 6W4P1jo421QCcz/Oj9+KlCskXyEP6yusUyiZnuuMkjDsk0urzyTckDjzLpYevilw36Hf iIZw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:user-agent:references :message-id:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=iKAAz5I5Aeg+UZja+r549S07sUzarrk14BPnLQPJS2k=; b=DE0C0TZTxx8Ip1llRbsYJJq+IwrKn45CsMgnPD1WTIabGxirzDkolxi+nnpITBxFCG R6wuCKS+ooN9r3rqjasqRgVWRqxxzDeaV//ffrfvCfxhlyMYi7y5NA0biDWloxkdLoK4 AkhcycYPoFHyav0fsSuGQvkiHmeM4xOXCg4yzBs+oUmYftgBpKDMmA93UCdp7+ruNZFq d2oQUn3ZBzz+9Fm8Ospu51La6j4txVpw7Ys4wpwgS5wRLIdgjO03lsDsRVBz5i4g07wO Hv7q5Aug78ODkQw1OxLPbd6N3dNns0aYjGI86OGicxMIZZoHjY8k4PwwM8I+EbBZbBs3 HsrA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c22si29849142pgb.254.2018.11.22.02.07.57; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 02:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2390359AbeKVJbg (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 22 Nov 2018 04:31:36 -0500 Received: from Galois.linutronix.de ([146.0.238.70]:45906 "EHLO Galois.linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2387849AbeKVJbg (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Nov 2018 04:31:36 -0500 Received: from p4fea46ac.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([79.234.70.172] helo=nanos) by Galois.linutronix.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1gPbOh-0002DZ-3w; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 23:55:03 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 23:55:02 +0100 (CET) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Borislav Petkov cc: Linus Torvalds , Linux List Kernel Mailing , the arch/x86 maintainers , Peter Zijlstra , Andrew Lutomirski , Jiri Kosina , thomas.lendacky@amd.com, Josh Poimboeuf , Andrea Arcangeli , David Woodhouse , Andi Kleen , dave.hansen@intel.com, Casey Schaufler , "Mallick, Asit K" , "Van De Ven, Arjan" , jcm@redhat.com, longman9394@gmail.com, Greg KH , david.c.stewart@intel.com, Kees Cook , Tim Chen Subject: Re: [patch 01/24] x86/speculation: Update the TIF_SSBD comment In-Reply-To: <20181121225336.GE27559@zn.tnic> Message-ID: References: <20181121201430.559770965@linutronix.de> <20181121201722.337599561@linutronix.de> <20181121225336.GE27559@zn.tnic> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Linutronix-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Linutronix-Spam-Level: - X-Linutronix-Spam-Status: No , -1.0 points, 5.0 required, ALL_TRUSTED=-1,SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 21 Nov 2018, Borislav Petkov wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 11:48:41PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > Btw, I really do not like the app2app wording. I'd rather go for usr2usr, > > but that's kinda horrible as well. But then, all of this is horrible. > > > > Any better ideas? > > It needs to have "task isolation" in there somewhere as this is what it > does, practically. But it needs to be more precise as in "isolates the > tasks from influence due to shared hardware." :) Not only shared hardware. IBPB is about tasks running back to back on the same CPU. Thanks, tglx