Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265100AbUAMSUA (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:20:00 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265102AbUAMSUA (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:20:00 -0500 Received: from wsip-68-14-236-254.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.14.236.254]:30696 "EHLO office.labsysgrp.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265100AbUAMST5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:19:57 -0500 Message-ID: <400436C3.6050507@backtobasicsmgmt.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:19:47 -0700 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Back to Basics Network Management User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030925 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Domsch CC: Scott Long , linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Proposed Enhancements to MD References: <40036902.8080403@adaptec.com> <20040113081932.A721@lists.us.dell.com> In-Reply-To: <20040113081932.A721@lists.us.dell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1431 Lines: 28 Matt Domsch wrote: > DDF is quickly becoming important to RAID and system vendors, and I > welcome Adaptec's work to implement DDF support on Linux. Fully agreed, the days of vendor-specific metadata formats need to be numbered (with a small number). Speaking a customer with a CMD FC-to-SCSI RAID controller, which used to be dual-redundant but is now single (because of a dead unit), we are not looking forward to the day when the remaining controller dies and we lose all the data on the array due to a forced metadata format change. However, given that this will not likely be 2.6 material until after it's built and tested in 2.7 and then backported, it doesn't seem to make any sense to me to build any of this on top of the MD subsystem at all (see other replies about using DM instead). Additionally, it also does not seem to make any sense to build any of the DDF reading/writing/management in the kernel _at all_. There is no advantage to it being there once initramfs is a standard part of the boot process, so all of this should be done is userspace and just communicated into the kernel to tell it what logical devices to construct using which DM modules. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/