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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 35si2325822pgn.278.2018.11.29.07.38.03; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 07:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=fail header.i=@infradead.org header.s=bombadil.20170209 header.b=WBTUN4tr; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728551AbeK3ClU (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 29 Nov 2018 21:41:20 -0500 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.133]:52184 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728233AbeK3ClU (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Nov 2018 21:41:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=e/44OweujBTvsgHnwuyRm5zM9pAVKO0ArllTpHzSSnY=; b=WBTUN4tr+UwG/Uu1TdcA6EXtB 1SexAHzTOo6IHXwRoNpktwGRotJJPQ+nktW7ZZ3ZlWlPU2CxGgWFw0jglyB69v8MKeKGbZAUIWDr7 B9Ltg1JwIKAgXQjTXfifR6nPTKOiK91cktOzbNfhnEMpbdzMBac2cek8fe170kkhcceRi0IKJzrhV 4uJHWJ5WWeDjLBQX/MuthriwtUSClk/mewyYK3shH02aWAgLRCc6TCKJR/fmFppzTw0wSwzGadjak 2cZo6fB3VhH0CicQct4Yq2rq0CiDzkPBzHYWIjgPDmwrGsmclkupBkKncdjRaZ9zWa/6aXSzfWeDv R3c5ykUPg==; Received: from j217100.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.217.100] helo=hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.90_1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1gSOLf-0000Cf-PZ; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 15:35:27 +0000 Received: by hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2CE7F2029FD58; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:35:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:35:26 +0100 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Andi Kleen Cc: Kyle Huey , Kan Liang , Ingo Molnar , Robert O'Callahan , Alexander Shishkin , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Jiri Olsa , Linus Torvalds , Stephane Eranian , Thomas Gleixner , Vince Weaver , acme@kernel.org, open list Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] x86, perf: counter freezing breaks rr Message-ID: <20181129153526.GR2131@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20181120194129.GC13936@tassilo.jf.intel.com> <20181120201144.GD13936@tassilo.jf.intel.com> <20181120221642.GE2131@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20181120222549.GA2149@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20181120223854.GH13936@tassilo.jf.intel.com> <20181121081420.GF2131@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20181127233615.GY13936@tassilo.jf.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181127233615.GY13936@tassilo.jf.intel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 03:36:15PM -0800, Andi Kleen wrote: > > It does seem that FREEZE_PERFMON_ON_PMI (misnamed as it is) is of > > rather limited use (or even negative, in our case) to a counter that's > > already restricted to ring 3. > > It's much faster. The PMI cost goes down dramatically. faster doesn't mean much when its broken.