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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id v69si6010360pgb.3.2018.11.30.13.55.07; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 13:55:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726712AbeLAJFN (ORCPT + 99 others); Sat, 1 Dec 2018 04:05:13 -0500 Received: from mga12.intel.com ([192.55.52.136]:61821 "EHLO mga12.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726746AbeLAJFN (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Dec 2018 04:05:13 -0500 X-Amp-Result: UNKNOWN X-Amp-Original-Verdict: FILE UNKNOWN X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False Received: from fmsmga001.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.23]) by fmsmga106.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 30 Nov 2018 13:54:30 -0800 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.56,300,1539673200"; d="scan'208";a="121363483" Received: from jsakkine-mobl1.jf.intel.com (HELO localhost) ([10.241.225.27]) by fmsmga001.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 30 Nov 2018 13:54:29 -0800 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 13:54:29 -0800 From: Jarkko Sakkinen To: David Miller Cc: James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, dave@stgolabs.net, keescook@chromium.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, amir73il@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, dja@axtens.net, linux@dominikbrodowski.net, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, edumazet@google.com, federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it, geert+renesas@glider.be, deller@gmx.de, corbet@lwn.net, kumba@gentoo.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, matthias.bgg@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, pabeni@redhat.com, paul.burton@mips.com, pmladek@suse.com, robh@kernel.org, sean.wang@mediatek.com, sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com, shannon.nelson@oracle.com, sbrivio@redhat.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, me@tobin.cc, makita.toshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp, willemb@google.com, yhs@fb.com, yanjun.zhu@oracle.com Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/15] Zero ****s, hugload of hugs <3 Message-ID: <20181130215429.GA24415@linux.intel.com> References: <20181130205521.GA21006@linux.intel.com> <1543611662.3031.20.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20181130214405.GG23772@linux.intel.com> <20181130.134808.1785785556132211918.davem@davemloft.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181130.134808.1785785556132211918.davem@davemloft.net> Organization: Intel Finland Oy - BIC 0357606-4 - Westendinkatu 7, 02160 Espoo User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 01:48:08PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > From: Jarkko Sakkinen > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 13:44:05 -0800 > > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 01:01:02PM -0800, James Bottomley wrote: > >> No because use of what some people consider to be bad language isn't > >> necessarily abusive, offensive or degrading. Our most heavily censored > >> medium is TV and "fuck" is now considered acceptable in certain > >> contexts on most channels in the UK and EU. > > > > This makes following the CoC extremely hard to a non-native speaker as > > it is not too explicit on what is OK and what is not. I did through the > > whole thing with an eye glass and this what I deduced from it. > > It would be helpful if you could explain what part of the language > is unclear wrt. explaining how CoC does not apply to existing code. > > That part seems very explicit to me. Well, now that I re-read it, it was this part to be exact: "Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that are not aligned to this Code of Conduct, or to ban temporarily or permanently any contributor for other behaviors that they deem inappropriate, threatening, offensive, or harmful." How this should be interpreted? I have not really followed the previous CoC discussions as I try to always use polite language so I'm sorry if this duplicate. /Jarkko