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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f12si12157596pgd.68.2018.12.03.03.53.54; Mon, 03 Dec 2018 03:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726394AbeLCLx4 (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 3 Dec 2018 06:53:56 -0500 Received: from mail-vk1-f196.google.com ([209.85.221.196]:37374 "EHLO mail-vk1-f196.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725883AbeLCLx4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Dec 2018 06:53:56 -0500 Received: by mail-vk1-f196.google.com with SMTP id 197so2813977vkf.4; Mon, 03 Dec 2018 03:53:12 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WkS5VxnVunhaJwM5ZQ2pXwz9+pzKRWg1voHxB29hCqI=; b=E5am7160z01Yx6zywVNsOSf02XBKHcqExPOVnRfC9v7AcJg7qCIzvwF2Bf5nYmToaR tmzSaKhsYYN5kskdzeuCBydwLVwuxsdhoGwuSsE+fyJWPDjXwfWixLCEwgugSsqBNawh Sui8UICiCwNxObZccTXI5hvfwnllSCkuJaBR5ZlSCV3NMNRQU51SMKSzN6SpOqKD7rti HDhkfFH+qQtrhpRJTOGNwLiab62wr6KACrc3w7yY7/Vq7mnMTk0WAj2eUyZOPE2yyx6z ZzYUJ56vXfrvZ4lnjI7c0KtJzq0dPdFSZqGWyF8HlMZeK744CZ27xrWUs8v3blDhA3gh zXMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWbXcsiqJR1TKuSyk7CpTO96/kK5B8WcdgQCzET9mVRUGLNva8Gk u1G1ydhDSj+A2PuXDM07Lkbd1khlChS+oWnSwhc= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:1881:: with SMTP id 123mr6688602vky.40.1543837991857; Mon, 03 Dec 2018 03:53:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181202093257.3918-1-geert@linux-m68k.org> <20181203110506.GA7485@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20181203110506.GA7485@kroah.com> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 12:53:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list of discrimination factors To: Greg KH Cc: Jonathan Corbet , Frank Rowand , acme@kernel.org, Tomi Valkeinen , Bart Van Assche , Pavel Machek , "open list:DOCUMENTATION" , Linux Kernel Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Greg, On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 12:05 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 10:32:57AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > Providing an explicit list of discrimination factors may give the false > > impression that discrimination based on other unlisted factors would be > > allowed. > > > > Furthermore, this list is already overly long, polarizing, > > politically-laden, and reinstating the concept of human races. > > None of these is related to the goals of the Linux kernel project. > > > > Avoid any ambiguity or political undertone by removing the list, to > > ensure "a harassment-free experience for everyone", period. > > I understand the reason you and others are proposing this change, > however for now, let us stick with the text that we have. As Linus and > I said just over a month ago, let's sit with the text we have until > something comes up that requires a change to happen. > > Also, I recommend you work with the upstream developers of this text to > see if they agree with your changes here. If they do, and update their > version, I will be glad to revisit this text at that time. I did, cfr. https://github.com/ContributorCovenant/contributor_covenant/issues/610 The official response was: "I'm not going to make this change to the Contributor Covenant itself, since I believe that explicitly listing examples of protected classes is important. However, any adopting project is free to modify the document according to the license." Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds