Received: by 2002:ad5:474a:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id i10csp7324275imu; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 11:00:58 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/Us/WZVx1+1wnw+b5xSlIwk5Xau+zGlsocBLptpIBGUuILIIkHqk9QNLCp8yqepia3GqJe/ X-Received: by 2002:a63:4e41:: with SMTP id o1mr13357929pgl.282.1543863658082; Mon, 03 Dec 2018 11:00:58 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1543863658; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=VCBe0+p4YtNMehLZjwIprQ5EuPGWscv67oJHj/9sfgLzVpF1zWLlOzUnpF1GnFO3l5 ORHNnRUVcgxSLRYBJHslatAnQJpcQ3lE7zt4YOHV6Gj7i+4cSbRhAtj8WMEJ7RLn8TYH ekkEA0zu+zfpRRCDZ1MmurKh5KzjZYhP5v7WKxL8fBacY4EBAR/nWwrkCgqsYraUquan uQtlRSAHlQ9WcNo54sOA88jR1s/ijWsg6rVGYA4T3T4acDkujF/nTQF0AABRP3+T8mVx O//J5cnoIu0NOiJB29/DpEnXv0zssjYel6pMjuucxzSHq/pNu3nqtzhwtpkQu/+uCzpw oaAg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=GBr+4IQn/urONHQ074y5SRVewwrNLPgDSGA2oGWeNrs=; b=lrH/ul1OfFGmiKpuRsGJgDtB535/WwQkLaQ/dgsNEgkVZw6utho7e6ODeaRF1OXHum dDvTay2rw+3OsCzYuPNX/Hv1vLQPybYR3pBPAT/vvCpPEzVbDzpLQLX1wG3G+TzNt5OX A4ppJQH1U8InmvNo4WnB6yuPMktsj6GqBB7XHjG/diyVrRr1FUcqTTeFfISpuqRs7qGA hh+q+/gdibJ2vmvCxBP+FgGCtcqESGTr7b87GZii2aioTIfm3uLz2fZdKXdNQaVtLsNE 5nNEjzoqg3oQ0sUJNMR7PSPXWR3jT6zsIFFeT4I0KP6ok7ELbp/DxaLGbK5Wqig7xUfo uYIA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c10si13818584pgt.222.2018.12.03.11.00.42; Mon, 03 Dec 2018 11:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726972AbeLCTAA (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 3 Dec 2018 14:00:00 -0500 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:47542 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725987AbeLCTAA (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Dec 2018 14:00:00 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C293AF31; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 18:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 19:59:54 +0100 From: Michal Hocko To: Linus Torvalds Cc: ying.huang@intel.com, Andrea Arcangeli , s.priebe@profihost.ag, mgorman@techsingularity.net, Linux List Kernel Mailing , alex.williamson@redhat.com, lkp@01.org, David Rientjes , kirill@shutemov.name, Andrew Morton , zi.yan@cs.rutgers.edu, Vlastimil Babka Subject: Re: [LKP] [mm] ac5b2c1891: vm-scalability.throughput -61.3% regression Message-ID: <20181203185954.GM31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <20181127062503.GH6163@shao2-debian> <20181127205737.GI16136@redhat.com> <87tvk1yjkp.fsf@yhuang-dev.intel.com> <20181203181456.GK31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181203183050.GL31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon 03-12-18 10:45:35, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 10:30 AM Michal Hocko wrote: > > > > I do not get it. 5265047ac301 which this patch effectively reverts has > > regressed kvm workloads. People started to notice only later because > > they were not running on kernels with that commit until later. We have > > 4.4 based kernels reports. What do you propose to do for those people? > > We have at least two patches that others claim to fix things. > > You dismissed them and said "can't be done". You are misinterpreting my words. I haven't dismissed anything. I do recognize both usecases under discussion. I have merely said that a better THP locality needs more work and during the review discussion I have even volunteered to work on that. There are other reclaim related fixes under work right now. All I am saying is that MADV_TRANSHUGE having numa locality implications cannot satisfy all the usecases and it is particurarly KVM that suffers from it. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs