Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67;
Date:   Tue, 4 Dec 2018 08:28:33 +0100
From:   Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To:     Thomas Backlund <tmb@mageia.org>
Cc:     Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
        Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, stable@vger.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
        "Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
        linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.14 25/35] iomap: sub-block dio needs to zeroout
 beyond EOF
Message-ID: <20181204072833.GB25998@kroah.com>
References: <20181129121458.GK19305@dastard>
 <20181129124756.GA25945@kroah.com>
 <20181129224019.GM19305@dastard>
 <20181130082203.GA26830@kroah.com>
 <20181130101441.GA213156@sasha-vm>
 <20181130215005.GP19305@dastard>
 <20181201074909.GC213156@sasha-vm>
 <20181202232302.GT19305@dastard>
 <20181203092241.GC235790@sasha-vm>
 <2de96c1b-c375-8eed-f934-df5cbcdcd5cc@mageia.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <2de96c1b-c375-8eed-f934-df5cbcdcd5cc@mageia.org>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.0 (2018-11-25)
Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
Precedence: bulk

On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 11:22:46PM +0159, Thomas Backlund wrote:
> Den 2018-12-03 kl. 11:22, skrev Sasha Levin:
> 
> > 
> > This is a case where theory collides with the real world. Yes, our QA is
> > lacking, but we don't have the option of not doing the current process.
> > If we stop backporting until a future data where our QA problem is
> > solved we'll end up with what we had before: users stuck on ancient
> > kernels without a way to upgrade.
> > 
> 
> Sorry, but you seem to be living in a different "real world"...
> 
> People stay on "ancient kernels" that "just works" instead of updating
> to a newer one that "hopefully/maybe/... works"

That's not good as those "ancient kernels" really just are "kernels with
lots of known security bugs".

It's your systems, I can't tell you what to do, but I will tell you that
running older, unfixed kernels, is a known liability.

Good luck!

greg k-h